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Dips bad for young athletes?

Discussion in 'Strength & Conditioning Discussion' started by XTrainer, May 19, 2008.

  1. Monger Chronically Injured

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    I never do dips anymore but it's mostly due to shoulder issues. Nearly every credible S&C coach that I've read about or talked to in regards to dips seems to think that the exercise is only good for people with extremely healthy shoulders. Obviously, they can cause a great deal of stress on the shoulders.

    This is actually the first time I've heard about the sternum issue with young athletes... but to be honest, having Mark Rippetoe AND Dan John warn against them is a pretty good reason to be, at the least, overly cautious with them. I personally, don't feel that dips are that great anyway. Yes, they can build a lot of strength... I won't deny that. But there are a lot of other exercises that can build that strength as well and dips aren't exactly a natural movement. I can't think of do many situations in real life or sports were you would be pushing in that position.
     
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    I wonder how bar dips compare to ring dips in terms of both shoulder stress and the effect on young athletes... I have not read the links so i'm just kinda thinking out loud... did they confront the issue in the links?
     
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    In my experience, both shoulder issues and the sternum pain issue are more common with wide grip dips. Ring dips are generally narrow grip, unless you're really strong and are fooling around with iron cross type stuff.
     
  4. mungos Purple Belt

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    I sympathize with you Zero.
     
  5. Gary Peters Purple Belt Professional Fighter

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    I just did weighted dips today and my left shoulder is killing... i think ill take a break from them for awhile. I usually switch them with OHP each week.
     
  6. smileyman22336 Banned Banned

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    they aren't harmful....they make you stronger...
     
  7. omgitsrick Green Belt

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    I don't think they're harmful but to me it seems as though bench would translate more into pushing and punching power.
     
  8. Donut62 Black Belt

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    I don't do them unless I have a set of handles that lets me keep my hand close together, with my elbows tucked into my sides like in a bench press. Anything wider than shoulder width makes me wince.
     
  9. Chaos Mitten** Banned Banned

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    It's also nice to have large diameter grips.
     
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    That's what she said?
     
  11. Jaxx Green Belt

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    Due to cash and time constraints dips are my main pressing exercise at the moment, im making solid strength gains with them but i do have crazy flexible shoulders.





    No more unnatural that the BP in my book. In grappling, pushing the head down whilst attempting to stuff a shot is a possible situation were the movement of dips might help out a bit.
     

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