Dillashaw Took Unatural Amount of Damage

[nostradumbass]

Show me these fight ending strikes cory landed.

Obviously wasn't dozens, but 2 knees and that backfist would have at least dropped most guys in the division.

 

[leevancleef1]

I read an article about his strength and conditioning coach...they all train in the dude's garage...hes a college professor...supposed to be some type of guru...wondering where he is/was involved in the epo...

that being said...dude above is right...TJ tough as nails regardless..took punishment and kept goin...

 

[Venom]

What is with this gut feeling "he lasted too long" "he was too tough" suspicions/passive accusation Sherdoggers still do in 2021?

That isn't evidence of anything by itself. Some people are just durable or don't actually take as much damage as thought by viewers. Don't ya'll give Rogan and the commentary desk shit for that? Supposed "fight-ending" hits between fights come from different angles and land with varying force. Finally we don't actually know how much the PEDs enhanced Dillashaw's natural performance, which might be above average against the competition anyway.

 

[Dude Incredible]

That’s not how it works, not sure where this myth started that you can take steroids and years later still have a benefit

Uncle Chael I think. At least it was in some sort of thread I mocked last night.

Saw someone say Rogan here. So essentially the people we should be getting all of our information from.

 

[Roop Holstry]

In the lighter weight classes someone with TJ’s work ethic and determination is going to be able to go 5 hard rounds EPO or not. Sure he can go harder with EPO but that doesn’t mean he needs it.

Not saying he’s clean. Most high level athletes do whatever they can to gain an advantage

 

[FIghtxIQ]

2.5 years out for an EPO bust. Comes back to BW at 35 years old and goes a full five rounds no problem. I’m not even remotely convinced he’s clean at all.

He was pretty tired in the 5 round fight but push forward. Nothing you wouldn't be able to do naturally. He actually seemed like he was fighting clean to me. Nothing about that fight screams PEDs to me. He actually started slowing down early on in the fight. Age isn't such a factor that people think it is. Some of the marathon runners and triathlon top athletes are older and get their best times when they are older. Just like that guy that finally ran the sub 2 hour ultra marathon for Nike and set a world record.

 

[blaseblah]

That’s not how it works, not sure where this myth started that you can take steroids and years later still have a benefit

It's not a myth, it's science.

https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1113/jphysiol.2013.264457
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releas...duce a permanent,after the steroid use ends."

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

It's not a myth, it's science.

https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1113/jphysiol.2013.264457
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190125084106.htm#:~:text="Anabolic steroids produce a permanent,after the steroid use ends."

Nice google search lol

Go take steroids for a few years, then get off them and see how you feel

Remember all the post-USADA fighters that totally fell off? Shouldn't Vitor be better after taking a bunch of gear? Oh wait that's not how it works at all

 

[Tone]

2.5 years out for an EPO bust. Comes back to BW at 35 years old and goes a full five rounds no problem. I’m not even remotely convinced he’s clean at all.

Dominick Cruz?

 

[acannxr]

Looking at his 5 round performance you'd think why was he taking EPO in the first place if this is 'clean' Dillasnake.

Because he was cutting to 125 and felt like shit

Holdsworth called out Dillashaw's PED use as far back as the first Barao fight (and Dillashaw's pace for that fight was a huge factor in his victory) and Garbrandt called out Dillashaw's EPO use a year prior to the latter's failed drug test.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Holdsworth called out Dillashaw's PED use as far back as the first Barao fight (and Dillashaw's pace for that fight was a huge factor in his victory) and Garbrandt called out Dillashaw's EPO use a year prior to the latter's failed drug test.

Yeah I'm sure he was doing other shit, just the same shit everyone else does lol

 

[blaseblah]

Nice google search lol

Go take steroids for a few years, then get off them and see how you feel

Remember all the post-USADA fighters that totally fell off? Shouldn't Vitor be better after taking a bunch of gear? Oh wait that's not how it works at all

This is scientific research, not Google. It's far more valuable than your non scientific anecdotes and speculation. Vitor Belfort is in his 40s and has been roiding his entire career. It's expected that he would fall off compared to when he was young and roiding.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

This is scientific research, not Google. It's far more valuable than your non scientific anecdotes and speculation. Vitor Belfort is in his 40s and has been roiding his entire career. It's expected that he would fall off compared to when he was young and roiding.

You won't get why this is funny, but I have met guys like you. Keep reading your studies and talking about anecdotes lol.

 

[SooBahkDo]

Nice google search lol

Go take steroids for a few years, then get off them and see how you feel

Remember all the post-USADA fighters that totally fell off? Shouldn't Vitor be better after taking a bunch of gear? Oh wait that's not how it works at all

But he didn't say you don't "fall off'. He said you still have a better fitness base to work from due to having been able to train harder and longer previously because of the PEDs.

 

[Sausage_Carius]

Nice google search lol

Go take steroids for a few years, then get off them and see how you feel

Remember all the post-USADA fighters that totally fell off? Shouldn't Vitor be better after taking a bunch of gear? Oh wait that's not how it works at all

Yeah that's not how drugs work. Any drugs.

Everything about it is going to be down to genetics. From the benefits or lack thereof, the side effects or lack thereof, and the same once you end its use. Obviously there will be some things that you will lose no matter what. Taking EPO once won't grant you a permanent increase in red blood cell production but then again there are certain people with a genetic trait, which apparently you can test for to find out, that block certain type of PEDs from ever showing up on any test so who knows what kind of freak of nature situation we may find out about decades from now.

One athlete may lose much, all or even get worse than they ever were before after they stop taking steroids or other drugs while others can take it seemingly in perpetuity with little to no side effects.

You cannot paint this with one brush. That is not how it works.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

But he didn't say you don't "fall off'. He said you still have a better fitness base to work from due to having been able to train harder and longer previously because of the PEDs.

So you still fall off, but you have a better "fitness base" to work from? What does that even mean?

 

[theleerygoose]

Dillashaw is natty and anything suggesting otherwise is baseless. Does this look like a guy that would take PEDs?

 

[Sausage_Carius]

But he didn't say you don't "fall off'. He said you still have a better fitness base to work from due to having been able to train harder and longer previously because of the PEDs.

It's not just fitness. If one athlete can take just EPO alone they could recover faster and be able to train more compared to their peers. They could not only catch up to but surpass their peers. Having something that can keep you on the mat training for inhuman amounts of time, with the right coaches, can allow you to prep, in camp, for an opponent so well that they have no hope of prepping for you properly and you have an enormous advantage on skill alone even if you don't even have EPO in your system for the fight.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Yeah that's not how drugs work. Any drugs.

Everything about it is going to be down to genetics. From the benefits or lack thereof, the side effects or lack thereof, and the same once you end its use. Obviously there will be some things that you will lose no matter what. Taking EPO once won't grant you a permanent increase in red blood cell production but then again there are certain people with a genetic trait, which apparently you can test for to find out, that block certain type of PEDs from ever showing up on any test so who knows what kind of freak of nature situation we may find out about decades from now.

One athlete may lose much, all or even get worse than they ever were before after they stop taking steroids or other drugs while others can take it seemingly in perpetuity with little to no side effects.

You cannot paint this with one brush. That is not how it works.

It's generally how it works, I'm sure there are exceptions, but we have seen plenty of athletes/people take steroids, then stop taking steroids, usually when they stop they are worse than they were before.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

That’s not how it works, not sure where this myth started that you can take steroids and years later still have a benefit

You are gonna keep some gains as long as you continue training hard, surely.