Different strength training

[heavyduty]

Last time I was in the gym i noticed this big dude lifting weights in an odd way. He was doing decline bench as one of his lifts, and what he would do is lift heavy for like 8 reps or so then soon as he finished that set he would immediately switch to dumbells and crank about more reps, it was lighter weight i could tell. I also saw him do this with the OHP.

What the hell kind of training is that? What sort of results are you expected to get from this??

 

[SteveX]

sounds similar to this
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=624184

 

[DeathGrinder]

smells like bb

 

[Old Man]

If he is doing 8 reps, then he is not lifting heavy.

 

[evilf22]

ill do this on push day between sets. i dont understand doing the same excercise though. the way i use it is just to keep my heart rate up. if i just bench for 5 sets, some overhead pushes, and a few other assistance excercises i never break a sweat. ill do bodyweight squats, LW bent over rows, etc.... nothing close to failure or anything like that. personal preference really. i just dont feel like benching taxes you at all. 5 sets of squats or deadlifts and i look like i have rabies. benching, not so much.

 

[heavyduty]

If he is doing 8 reps, then he is not lifting heavy.

What do you mean?

 

[Regalius]

Heavy lifting is generally considered 1-5 reps. If you can pull off 8 reps with a weight than your not lifting close enough to your max.

 

[magicman531]

Just because it's not your max lift doesn't mean it's not heavy, eh? I could do a heavy set of 20 rep squats without using my max or even 5 reps max lift. But it's still a heavy weight, relatively speaking.

 

[Old Man]

Just because it's not your max lift doesn't mean it's not heavy, eh? I could do a heavy set of 20 rep squats without using my max or even 5 reps max lift. But it's still a heavy weight, relatively speaking.

So if I do OHP with 5 pound dumbbells for 200 reps am I lifting heavy?

 

[Old Man]

What do you mean?

On max effort days I do between 1 and 3 reps. Exercises that I am experienced with and feel comfortable going heavy I will usually just do 1 rep (for me that is bench and deadlift).

 

[Henry Swanson]

So if I do OHP with 5 pound dumbbells for 200 reps am I lifting heavy?

No.

 

[JerkWeed]

So if I do OHP with 5 pound dumbbells for 200 reps am I lifting heavy?

If you do OHP with 1000 pound dumbells for 200 reps it would be considered heavy by most strength athletes even if it was not close to your one rep max.

Is this heavy?
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I guess it depends who gets to define the word "heavy". To the world champion that 226kg is pretty light.

Then again, the combined 1 rep max of every human who has ever lived pales in comparison to the amount of mass the Sun is holding in orbit for millenia, so perhaps the Sun is lifting too lightly to be considered strong?

 

[heavyduty]

OK so, basically.. what is the beneficial aspect of lifting relatively HEAVY(6-8 reps) and then chopping down to half of that weight and doing 10 more repetitions for a complete 3 time set? Lets say..

140 LBs 6 reps -- 60 LBs 10 reps

doing this 3 times.

 

[blackandblue]

OK so, basically.. what is the beneficial aspect of lifting relatively HEAVY(6-8 reps) and then chopping down to half of that weight and doing 10 more repetitions for a complete 3 time set? Lets say..

140 LBs 6 reps -- 60 LBs 10 reps

doing this 3 times.

No doubt he's going for hypertrophy with the added volume

 

[Lusst]

If you can lift it more than once, go heavier.

 

[BlastBeats]

If you can lift it more than once, go heavier.

Amen

 

[heavyduty]

Where do I learn about hypertrophy and volume? Im not entirely sure what that means. Does this kind of routine make your stronger though with more endurance?

 

[Chris H]

Where do I learn about hypertrophy and volume? Im not entirely sure what that means. Does this kind of routine make your stronger though with more endurance?

What the guy was doing is a type of bodybuilding routine most likely. If you're lifting for athletics do not do what this guy was doing, if you're lifting to look big then by all means.

 

[heavyduty]

What the guy was doing is a type of bodybuilding routine most likely. If you're lifting for athletics do not do what this guy was doing, if you're lifting to look big then by all means.

He was a wide receiver on the football team. So I don't know. I guess I'll stick with 3 sets of 6 heavy weight.

 

[blackandblue]

Where do I learn about hypertrophy and volume? Im not entirely sure what that means. Does this kind of routine make your stronger though with more endurance?

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