1. Going straight over-under grip YouTube - marcelo garcia vs vitor shaolin ribiero 2. Grabbing the leg during scramble/opponent turtling first and then transitioning to over-under YouTube - Ryan Hall Path to The Back Well maybe not THAT fancy, that video was just there to grab your attention :icon_chee I've spent most of my time doing BJJ doing the first one but I'm noticing there are opportunities where the second one (okay..not the whole fancy rolling under thing, just holding their leg/hips with your arms) could work a bit better. When is it better to just go straight for the over-under? When is it better to control the leg first? Will this be a common move soon or is it just something that Eddie Bravo & Ryan Hall are going to be using?