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Opinion Did the democrats paint themselves into a corner?

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by TapSnapBreak, Nov 7, 2020.

  1. TapSnapBreak Fossil Griffin Belt

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    Biden has won. The Senate stays republican and the house is too close for the democrats to vote for anything too controversial or else their own people will not vote for it.

    With this Biden becomes the new president during the worst economic crisis since the great depression. So first he has to get his team together, confirmation hearings and all the usual procedure. That will take until early summer, still corona moves on and the economy is bleeding. Biden is now the face of this and of course, will get more frustrated because the democrats don’t have the luxury of Obama's first term when they had both chambers. His approvals will drop and this will hurt Biden because he wants to be loved.

    Meanwhile, he is getting older and the economy will take years to get better. He has no majority, so he must work together with the republicans which will make the left within his own party incredibly angry, so he will be under attack from them as well. AOC and others will bring up topics, he has no majority to vote for and maybe even in the house she will not get a majority for her plans, because several democrats are afraid, that they will get voted out in the midterms.

    Biden will probably use executive orders like Obama / Trump to get things done, but the Scotus and others will stop some of it as well. Because of all of this and his age/ health, he will not get to a second term. So, it will be President Harris vs. the Republican candidate. And let us be honest, even if the media is in love with her, the democratic base or the general population is not. She never got a lot of votes during the primaries and she has the charisma of a wet f blanket.

    The democrats were so laser-focused to get Trump out of office, they never had a long-term strategy. Harris is not Obama, not even close and the party can not rally behind her. She is a corporate candidate; she lacks the warmth and the empathy of Biden. There will be millions, like after Obama, who were left behind, and she has no answers for them. If the Republicans find somebody who has the energy like Trump had, they will take back the white house after four years and that would really break the democrats. The left will take over completely and they don’t have a majority in the US (not even in California, as it was proven for example with proposition 16).
     
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  2. JohnnySagebrush Purple Belt

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    Yes, you have good points. I think this is a pyrrhic victory; Biden will likely encounter an economic crisis during his Presidency that could very well doom him. It would have happened under Trump, too.
     
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  3. Benjamin Burton Brown Belt

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    The white house is now an assisted living facility
     
  4. hitcher Arguably the perfect human

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    That could very well happen, but Obama got the US out of the financial crisis 08, and Biden was VP during that time. He knows how to handle a crisis. Although, obviously Republicans will now care about the deficit.
     
  5. Deadwing88 Caliph of Dagestan.

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    2022 midterms are going to be a bloodbath..

    The Democrats no longer have the boogeyman of Trump to juice turnout.
     
  6. Rational Poster Actually the Best Poster

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    They're only +1 in the Senate. Possibly might even lose that when all the votes are counted still.

    Multiple current and returning Senators have broke ranks in the past very recently.

    Vice President Harris would be the deciding vote in any ties.


    Can they get rid of the filibuster and pack the courts? Probably not.

    But there is certainly room for reasonable legislation on things like the upcoming stimulus and other popular policies like health care reform.
     
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  7. Benjamin Burton Brown Belt

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    Maybe he knew how to handle it before the dementia set it.

    The guy thinls he just beat George Bush lol
     
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  8. Err Brown Belt

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    Biden and Harris are apt to piss off the left anyways, as they are both historically more centrist, milquetoast Democrats who likely won’t cater to the far left demographic which helped them get elected.
     
  9. Social Distance Warrior Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    What I've noticed is that every president has blamed the previous problems the nation is experiencing on the previous president. Biden will blame Trump for the economic turbulence the nation is facing., similar to how Trump blamed Obama, and how Obama blamed GWB.

    The question is, will these claims be credible
     
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    Whats your opinion? And how did you derive at that?
     
  11. gspieler Silver Belt

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    This is probably a blessing-in-disguise for the GOP. Gives them time to rebrand, by marketing to new demographics. In the meantime, bank on the neo-left continuing to do everything they can to turn away moderates.
     
  12. Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog

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    What did Trump blame Obama for? Seems like the opposite. Tried to take credit for the economy that he took over, for some of Obama's foreign-policy successes, for the 2014 Veteran's bill, and more.
     
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    Raising taxes on the rich is controversial. God bless America.
     
  14. Social Distance Warrior Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    The Iran deal,
    The state of affairs in the middle east in general

    How ACA crushed the working class.
    Every time the economy took a nose dive

    He blamed all these on Obama.

    Again,.not saying its accurate but he did
     
  15. TapSnapBreak Fossil Griffin Belt

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    She's black.

    That is their entire 2024 strategy. They are confident that Obama's 2008 turnout success amongst black voters can be replicated again if the candidate is black. That is why they selected her in the first place.
     
  16. Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog

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    The Iran deal was good. He fucked it up, but I don't see any blaming. The working class wasn't crushed, and economic numbers were actually good, and Trump tried to take credit for it. The only thing I remember him blaming Obama for was COVID (even though it made no sense).
     
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  17. Gunny Gold Belt

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    did he actually say that? Is there a video?
     
  18. Social Distance Warrior Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    I think he was trying to make a comparison to the swine flu and how more people would have died if such and such did or didn't happen.

    It was difficult to keep tbh.
     
  19. MicroBrew Titanium Belt

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    Winning the WH is still better than not winning the WH.

    Winning the WH , if nothing else, means the Dems can derail Trumpismo.
     
  20. Clifford_Harris Green Belt

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    Lol the economy is an easy win for Biden. Shit is so far down that it can only go up and despite what Trump thinks the stock market isn't an accurate measurement of how the economy is doing.
     

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