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Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by El Panteron, Jul 25, 2021.

  1. El Panteron Purple Belt

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    I'm a noob (watching since 2017) but ever since arenas got silent I've noticed a drop in quality of decisions.

    There are nights like this one that are totally disastrous and judges fuck up multiple times, but they used to be less frequent as far as I remember.
     
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    They say Covid causes brain fog..
     
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    It's always been this way, just getting more publicity now.
     
  4. pseto223 Blue Belt

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    Didn't watch the whole WMMA fight, no opinion there.
    Dillashaw-Sandhagen was 2:2 before the fifth round (in my book), the fifth was pretty even, Sandhagen landed the better punches, but TJ was the aggressor and hugged him for several minutes. The latter shouldn't win you a round, but Sandhagen showed zero urgency and fought as if the fight is clear 3:1 in his favor. I was absolutely sure the fight is gonna be a split after the fifth.
    Paiva... how someone thinks he didn't win the fight? He got smacked in the first, which wasn't a 10:8 for me (because Paiva got back in it in the last minute), then soundly beat Phillips in the second and also won the third. Phillips gassed hard after the first and did literally nothing besides several sloppy takedown attempts.
     
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    I thought Phillips vs Paiva and TJ vs SALThagen were the proper decisions… I honestly can’t opine on the WMMA fight because I didn’t watch it.


    Regardless of the knockdowns Phillips was forced back and also took damage in Round 1, it wasn’t a 10-8. Then Paiva clearly won rounds 2&3.


    Also lol @ SALThagen winning the TJ fight… outside of causing the early cut he was forced to retreat by a one-legged 5’5 fighter coming off a layoff… he gave away the fight. 4-1 TJ.
     
  6. El Panteron Purple Belt

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    It's always been bad but it wasn't entire cards getting fucked up, it was one fight being bad and then on to the next.
    This last 2 years you get some cards that are just insane it their entirety.

    But maybe it's me changing as a viewer.
     
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    Leave the “scamdemic” out of the mma talks


    These threads go south quick
     
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    It's not bad judging, it's corruption. You know how much money can be made gambling on fights? There has always been corruption in combat sports and it happened again Saturday night.
     
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    Still as corrupt as ever.

    You just have to finish the fight.
     
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    Judging has always been... inconsistent.
    The fact nothing ever happens to any judge that gets it completely wrong only helps continue this way.

    but look into fights like Jon Jones & Gustafson (1st fight), Machida & Rua (1st fight) or GSP & Hendricks.
    Those are the biggest ones, but just a taste to show you that it is not new.
     
  11. Kung Fu Kowboy Winning until he lost 2021 Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    They have always sucked in combat sports...
     
  12. Only Here for Attachments Bacon Lettuce and Mayo

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    Dana: "These fawkin' judges, right? Shit!"

    *backstage*

    "Great job, guys! Here are your bonuses. Now next week we need these guys to win..."
     
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    It's selective memory/confirmation bias.

    You believe judging wasn't this consistently bad before the lockdowns, and you seem to "confirm" that idea in your head by examples of bad judging you can pick out in the period under discussion. But if you zoom out from this period, you can see that the observation is flawed and there isn't a strong pattern there.
     
  14. dipstickjimmy Red Belt

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    Orange is the new White Belt? That take is utterly laughable. I have to assume you are being a troll as it is hard to believe anyone is that ignorant.
     
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    It’s the same as always. However, parity is much more abundant in the matchups. There is a lot more nuance in general as well. I won’t excuse poor judging, but fights are much closer now, overall.
     
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  16. Wand claude van-damme Blue Belt

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    Stop watching MMA right now, Don't ever try and judge a fight yourself, and PLEASE don't ever comment here ever again.
     
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    My guy won, meaning I’m right. Learn the fight game and come back to me.



    <MikeP1>
     
  18. Pharenheit Khamzat Bless

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    That Barber fight was a fuckin robbery. What a shame
     
  19. Wand claude van-damme Blue Belt

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    LMAO your guy? Your guy is Paiva and Dillashaw?! LOL. Checks out. At least thanks for admitting bias and basically acknowledging that you don't know shit.
     
  20. Tweak896 Black Belt

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    If you think today has bad judges, look back at Cecil Peoples, that guy was p4p worst judge.
     

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