Did Gus clearly win even 1 round?

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  1. Bargey

    Bargey Red Belt

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    We know Jones won two rounds - 4 and 5. If one fighter has clearly won two rounds and the other hasn't clearly won any, then it's gonna be difficult to pull out a decision.

    Maybe all the 'Gus woz wobbed' crowd can provide a consensus opinion on just which round he clearly won. I feel like he won rd 3 but a lot of people are not sure of which rounds he won and why beyond "he stuffed a lot of TD attempts".

    Sorry, that doesn't score. So help me out.
     
  2. thatone**

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    I just rewatched it and I had jon winning round one easy. You dont win rounds by doing better than expected. Jones chased him around and landed more and better shots in round 1. all Gus did was cut him with a glancing blow and took joones down with 0 GNP or control. there is a case for him edging out round 3 though....I'll give him round 3
     
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    He won the first three.
     
  4. fdeboer

    fdeboer White Belt

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    No.

    I just don't get people on this site. They complain and complain that Jones doesn't fight guys his own size, that he's never had to show his chin, that he's never been really tested... then all of that happens and they still shit on him.
     
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    1, 2 and 3. I also gave him 4. A brief period of being hurt doesn't cancel out almost an entire round of winning.
     
  6. Hans Gercmiov

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    I thought so as well. And I thought he was winning the 4th until he got rocked. Jones took it the rest of the way.
     
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    lol. The only round you could even argue Gus won clearly is round 3. But Jones clearly won 4 and 5.
     
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    Rounds 1 -3

    Round 5 was 10-10.
     
  9. johncola

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    You're gonna see people ITT reeling off a list of rounds they think Gustafsson won, but they don't understand the thread or are just being dishonest. The answer is "no"; there isn't a round in this fight that Gustafsson clearly won. Each round there's an argument that can be made for why Jones won it. The same is almost true for Jones, but I don't think Gustafsson can have much of a claim for round 5.
     
  10. Shayo

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    Yup. That's why i voted for draw lol
     
  11. GSP_37

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    That brief period of being hurt was way closer to a finish than all of Gus' offense in Round 4, so yeah it's worth more. I think that's why they distinguish betw strikes vs. significant strikes.
     
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    I had this in mind too. People say Rogan was biased sometimes but he keeps mentioning "Gustafsson" over and over in the first 3 rounds
     
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    Landed more shots to Jones' swollen face.

    All leg kicks that Jones threw were blocked, take down led to nothing.
     
  14. Bargey

    Bargey Red Belt

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    He clearly won 1, 2 and 3? Really? How?
     
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  16. johncola

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    You're probably right.
     
  17. Jeff Goldblum69

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    yes...clearly
     
  18. Codpiece

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    2/3 judges in the Condit/GSP fight agree with you, and so do I.

    Actually I think Jones won the clearest round (5) in the whole fight. I think if one were being objective (and I know that is hard for folks here) then 2 & 4 were drawn rounds. I think Gus won 3 fairly clearly and edged 1, so my score was 49-48 Gus.

    That being said I concede:

    - judges don't like to score drawn rounds, even when they are merited
    - the 'you have to really beat the champ to become the champ' mentality exists and actually makes a bit of sense, so Gus probably needed to do a bit more than he did. Which isn't his fault, he did everything he could against one of the best fighters of this generation and made him look mortal, which is more than any of the other legends facing Jones has achieved.

    In defeat I respect Gus more now than I did in any of his wins. War Gus!




    Ok shit got derailed there, sorry. It was a crazy fight.
     
  19. Project 86

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    only rounds Jones won were round 5 and last 30 seconds of round 4
     
  20. Lucifer Alpha

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    ^Jones haters won't even give him a round where he almost finished the fight.
     

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