Did 'Black Fedor' surpass the original?

[StraightleftKO]

Fedor's biggest comp at the time was Big Nog and beat him twice. DC biggest comp was/is Jon Jones and lost to him twice.

 

[ChucksGlassJaw]

Fedor was KO'd by a 76 year old MW. Cormier is the answer and it's not even close.

 

[kenetics]

Actually, I’d love to see Stipe vs Sergei.
They would have matched up pretty well.

Sergei would've of been a tough match for stipe because he had a great boxing and a better chin then stipe.

Stipe got hit and dropped alot in his prime.

 

[ChucksGlassJaw]

Fedor's biggest comp at the time was Big Nog and beat him twice. DC biggest comp was/is Jon Jones and lost to him twice.

Jones is way better than both Fedor and Cormier. Not a fair comparison.

 

[mirror45]

Dc is #2 lhw and hw behind jones of all time

 

[Perrichet]

MMATH LMAO

too easy.

MMATH > Your opinion on the matter

 

[JoshR86]

1st of all, Babalu was a HW back then when he started.
In this fight he was around 229 lbs IIRC while Fedor, lighter @ 227 lbs.

Moreover, Arona...A LHW in this fight, @ 202 lbs, but you´re talkin about someone who would manhandle Kerr (!) a few yrs later @ ADCC.

On a sidenote, the Arona fight was close, was ruled a Majority Draw at the end of the 2nd Round [Draw x 2 + 1 Judge gave it to Arona]. Arona had more ground controle, but Fedor had more submission attempts... It is what it is.

Now talkin´ about the roster of this tournament:

Rings: King of Kings 2000 Block A
> you had guys like:
Minotau, Tamura, Couture,Babalu, Valentijn Overeem, Horn,Labasanov,Suren Balachinskiy (was considered
better than Fedor at that time, beat him twice in sambo) etc

Rings: King of Kings 2000 Block B
> Fedor, TK, Ilyukhin, Arona,Kopylov etc

Stil not seeing the era he dominated before??

Are you insinuating that MMA has not evolved in 20 years?? That Block B was the equivolent of DC's opponents today??

FYI every aspect of the sport has evolved, from amateur wrestling to especially BJJ, to especially and most irrelevant how those 2 are trained together today.

To insinuate tjat the 1 dimensional sport of the 90's is that same as today is a fucking joke. And both you guys should feel a little bit dumber for even comparing it.

DC wasn't getting punched and kicked in the head in his 20s

Fight age almakes a difference

 

[Mixfight]

Fedor is the GOAT.

DC is one of the GOATs.

There is a difference.

 

[gono btw]

Stil not seeing the era he dominated before??

Are you insinuating that MMA has not evolved in 20 years?? That Block B was the equivolent of DC's opponents today??

FYI every aspect of the sport has evolved, from amateur wrestling to especially BJJ, to especially and most irrelevant how those 2 are trained together today.

To insinuate tjat the 1 dimensional sport of the 90's is that same as today is a fucking joke. And both you guys should feel a little bit dumber for even comparing it.

tbh I dont think you know what you´re talkin´ about.

And since u have no longer any technical sound argument, you´re now spittin´clichés, and recycling BS u heard from others.

To make it short, listen to Hume, he knows much more than those who taught u these clichés:

 

[Pulver-ize]

Many of Fedors opponents are considered legends,, How many of DC are?.. People need to stop trying to push the DC legacy..

 

[Greco_Wiz]

Yes. Fedor couldn’t evolve. Even at 39 Cormier is the #1 ranked fighter in the world at two weight classes. Fedor was getting his shit pushed in at 35. Fedor also fought at a time when a portion of the best heavyweights were in another organization. Cormier has been fighting in an organization that has a monopoly on the talent.

 

[Greco_Wiz]

Fedor is incedibly overrated, great at his time, but he dominated a single era, and the game caught up to him fairly quiclky.

1 guy was getting KO'd by MW's by the age 33 the other becams a 2 division champ at age 39.

Pretty much this. /thread

 

[JoshR86]

tbh I dont think you know what you´re talkin´ about.

And since u have no longer any technical sound argument, you´re now spittin´clichés, and recycling BS u heard from others.

To make it short, listen to Hume, he knows much more than those who taught u these clichés:

Lol yes because you can be just as successful training in a single discipline, or even just 2 right??

The training protocols from the 90's hasnt changed at all, the mma school back then still is the same thing...

You sir are a baffoon

 

[gono btw]

Lol yes because you can be just as successful training in a single discipline, or even just 2 right??

The training protocols from the 90's hasnt changed at all, the mma school back then still is the same thing...

You sir are a baffoon

tbh I already understood that u are an idiot, so jus´ check what Hume has to say and stop losing my time.

 

[ANIM4L]

He beat Stipe by poking him in both eyes then KOing him. Got a long way to go in my book.

 

[jjjjjjjjjjohnny]

Fan of both guys. Fedor, by far, was a killer. He decimated how many UFC champions when they were relevant. I like comier and very happy he won the title, but disappointed stipe lost. Cormier needs to defend and fight some other HW's before being put in the same class.

 

[Ekim]

Jones would headkick both of them into Bolivia... and then piss dirty.

 

[JoshR86]

tbh I dont think you know what you´re talkin´ about.

And since u have no longer any technical sound argument, you´re now spittin´clichés, and recycling BS u heard from others.

To make it short, listen to Hume, he knows much more than those who taught u these clichés:

Lmao " but there are some who have done what they need to do and EVOLVED VERY FAR "

/thread

Thanks for playing

 

[superpunch]

Skillwise, yes. Legacy, no.

If DC did his entire run at HW and never lost the belt, he would have Fedor's legacy.

However, he cut down to 205 and was always second best there. He's only a real champion right now and he hasn't even defended the HW belt once.

 

[Vil7]

I think Negrodor sounds better. You can make a strong case for Cormier now since he has had both the UFC LHW & HW championship belts. That is a huge accomplishment.