Diaz vs GSP....... Their best wins compared

[Viper98]

using the latest consensus rankings(november)

How do their top 5 victories stack up?


http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/11/...er-2012-meta-rankings-welterweight/in/3463459

GSP

1. Carlos Condit......#3 ranked
2. Jon Fitch...... #6 ranked
3. Josh Koscheck........ #7 ranked(though he beat him twice I'll only count it once)
4. B.J. Penn....... #16 ranked(again beat twice)
5. Thiago Alves...... #28 ranked





Nick Diaz

1. B.J. Penn
2. No other top 30 wins to report........ his only other fights against people in the top 30 currently are a decision loss to Condit(#3) and a decision loss to Sanchez(#13)



and BJ obviously isn't even a real WW












how about common opponents?


obviously BJ - both won. GSP via decision and then corner stoppage. Diaz decision

Sean Sherk - GSP wins 2nd round TKO stoppage....... Diaz loses decision
Karo Parysan - GSP wins decision........ Diaz loses decision
Carlos Condit - GSP wins decision.......... Diaz loses decision











































can someone remind me again why Diaz deserves a title shot?

 

[Pupi]

because it gives GSP a chance to go up against a good boxer and get his confidence up before he goes up against hendricks and anderson.

 

[Kumason]

where's that gif of someone beating a dead horse...I agree but let's get over it.

 

[Viper98]

where's that gif of someone beating a dead horse

oh wait I'm sorry that's a gif of Diaz losing to a lightweight

 

[KOREANZOMBIE420]

well if you knew anything about nick diaz he didn't reach his full potential until mid into his career at strike force. all i gotta say is keep doubting nick.

 

[AssWhoopin]

Did you leave Daley out because he is a brit ... Or worse yet because he is black?

 

[Sumbog]

oh wait I'm sorry that's a gif of Diaz losing to a lightweight

Sean Sherk was really good back in the day, not saying that makes up for Diaz losing... Sust saying

 

[Diet Otsuka]

Did you leave Daley out because he is a brit ... Or worse yet because he is black?

Looks like we've got a racist on our hands, people.

 

[HeadSplitter]

Daley was a top 10 , fool

 

[elzar]

oh wait I'm sorry that's a gif of Diaz losing to a lightweight

that gif is so heavily edited you can't tell what's going on. diaz looked really good against sherk considering how old he was at the time. not a dominant performance by sherk at all.

 

[jk1234]

Diaz beat Condit, so if thats GSPs best win then take what you will

 

[Viper98]

Diaz beat Condit, so if thats GSPs best win then take what you will

Diaz lost 3 rounds easily

and a 4th is debatable

there's onyl 1 round in that fight that he definitely won

 

[Viper98]

Did you leave Daley out because he is a brit ... Or worse yet because he is black?

do you see paul daley's name anywhere in the top 30?

no? didn't think so

maybe he WAS a top fighter before but he's not now

 

[Sakurabas Ear]

Daley was a top 10 , fool

wow the world was a weird place back then eh? :icon_chee

 

[hot carl]

well if you knew anything about nick diaz he didn't reach his full potential until mid into his career at strike force. all i gotta say is keep doubting nick.

full potential as evidenced by beating daley, cyborg, smith? which one was it again?

 

[Viper98]

full potential as evidenced by beating daley, cyborg, smith? which one was it again?

I'm pretty sure it was beating KJ Noons

 

[cade187]

Funny thread coming from a GSP fan.

How about we look at it this way, how do they compare when moving up in weight to face fighters from a different weight class?

Diaz 2-0
GSP 0

Also, Daley was top 10, and Zaromskis was top 10 on a lot of sites when Diaz fought him. People were calling Zaromskis the second coming of Cro Cop, and he was riding a nice win streak coming into the Diaz fight, including his tournament win. People discredit this win because Zaromskis hasn't done fantastic since then, but a loss can do a lot to a fighter.

Since the fight with Frank Shamrock, Diaz hasn't had a single easy fight. Just because fighters aren't currently ranked doesn't make them cans. Especially considering that most of his fights happened outside of the UFC, and the UFC always received favourable MMA rankings.

 

[cade187]

do you see paul daley's name anywhere in the top 30?

no? didn't think so

maybe he WAS a top fighter before but he's not now

WTF does current ranking have to do with a fight that happened two years ago?

 

[That209]

Funny 'cause Diaz outstruck Sherk in every round and landed like 40-50 more overall. Landed more significant strikes, and swept Sherk 2-3 times and stuffed 15+ TD's. You can argue Nick won that fight against Sherk. Sorry.

 

[Sakurabas Ear]

Funny thread coming from a GSP fan.

How about we look at it this way, how do they compare when moving up in weight to face fighters from a different weight class?

Diaz 2-0
GSP 0

Also, Daley was top 10, and Zaromskis was top 10 on a lot of sites when Diaz fought him. People were calling Zaromskis the second coming of Cro Cop, and he was riding a nice win streak coming into the Diaz fight, including his tournament win. People discredit this win because Zaromskis hasn't done fantastic since then, but a loss can do a lot to a fighter.

Since the fight with Frank Shamrock, Diaz hasn't had a single easy fight. Just because fighters aren't currently ranked doesn't make them cans. Especially considering that most of his fights happened outside of the UFC, and the UFC always received favourable MMA rankings.

BJ Penn, Cyborg, Scott Smith... In what universe would Cyborg beat Alves, Fitch, Koscheck, etc. same with Smith and as for BJ in his last two fights he's been a punching bag.