Diaz/Silva = Silva win.... Reem/Lesnar = Shouldve been NC... LOGIC EXPLAINED HERE

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  1. shinbone28

    shinbone28 White Belt

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    saw the thread calling for diaz/silva being a NC cuz thats logical, no it isnt. Diaz lost, Silva failed his test, but Diaz also failed his, both under their normal license.


    Ill explain to you a situation where a fight shouldve been overturned but wasnt..

    Lesnar vs Overeem

    Remember how the fight was almost called off because Overeem avoided a drug test and wasnt granted a license?

    During the pre fight conference, they were testing all fighters with a random test, including Lesnar , who took the test.. and Overeem got in his car and drove away immediately flew back to Holland and the fight was put in jeopardy.

    Overeem was given a hearing and given a conditional license where he would have to pass the pre-fight screening but also TWO post fight random screenings while under the license or else license would be invalid.

    Overeem failed one of those random post fight tests, making his license invalid, therefore didn't obide by the conditions given to him which gave him a license to fight Brock Lesnar, therefore the fight must be overturned to a No Contest.

    But nope, it was swept under the rug and handled as if he was not on a conditional license, and kept a win under Overeem's record since Lesnar was retired.

    source:

    The overeem/lesnar situation was one of the most overlooked so obvious cases of steroids in the UFC.

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  2. Minnja

    Minnja Touch-Butt white belt Platinum Member

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    Anderson's win has been turned into a NC
     
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  4. shinbone28

    shinbone28 White Belt

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    i didnt even know that, but in that case it shouldnt have been.

    Silva should have kept the W, and the logic explained in my thread is why.
     
  5. shinbone28

    shinbone28 White Belt

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    Brock nuthugging?

    So laying out facts surrounding Overeem and his steroid abuse and explaining how the NC logic should work and basically just bring up a case in which an NC shouldve happened but didnt, is now considered nuthugging Brock?

    I dont even like Brock.

    God damn you people are retarded
     
  6. Senzo Tanaka

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    I guess you missed the part in the story where Lesnar also ran from the test? They claimed he was hunting and couldn't find him. His test was also delayed.

    The test Reem ended up failing was after the fight. The terms were that he would have a conditional license to fight Lesnar but if he failed after, he risked having his license revoked. It had no bearing on the match or the outcome.

    It's pretty clear to me that both guys were trying to game the system but the win is a win. He passed his pre and post fight tests and that's all that matters.
     
  7. shinbone28

    shinbone28 White Belt

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    Lesnar took the test the same day he should have.

    Overeem flew to Holland.

    The license conditions were he would have to pass a prefight drug test and TWO RANDOM TESTS after the fight, one of which was the one he failed, making his license invalid.

    Therefore the fight would be a No Contest because the license Overeem had was obsolete.
     
  8. Th3Sav4ge

    Th3Sav4ge "What the fuck is happening!?"

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    everyone talked shit about reem on roids. nothing overlooked at all.


    On reem still having the win.....who gives a fuck


    actually wasnt reem suposed to fight JDS when he got caught?. So he passed the other tests for brock
     
  9. cumafish

    cumafish Silver Belt

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    it's pretty simple, he did not fail the "post fight" test so he keeps the W. he fails the next test and loses his "conditional" license.
     
  10. own1997

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    You get that alot. Brock is like marmalade. Some love him, other hate him. But boy, do the haters spew fictitious, biased garbage.
     
  11. BisexualMMA

    BisexualMMA Don't Put My Name in the Name of Steroids!

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    Things really shouldn't be this complicated. People shouldn't have to go to law school to make educated guesses on what steroid failures lead to NCs or losses and whatnot, and that also goes for the executives at the AC that actually make the decisions.

    Regardless of the circumstances surrounding how one got a license, or any of that, there should be simple rules:

    You win but test positive = X
    You lose and your opponent tests positive = Y
    Both fighters test positive = Z

    And something for draws, if they occur.
     
  12. GetWrecked

    GetWrecked Blue Belt

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    Difference is Diaz doesn't use PEDs but Silva does.
     
  13. cumafish

    cumafish Silver Belt

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    here you go.
    draw=Q
     
  14. cumafish

    cumafish Silver Belt

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    commissions aren't fans so...
    failed test=failed test
     
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    Damn alistair ran away from his test yet he still got to fight and was given the w. Yet wanderlei got screwed over and cant fight now because he did the same wtf.
     
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    Weidman Still my booooy!

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    Now I really want to see Jon Jones vs Anderson Silva to find out who gets poked first.
     
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    TCE The Three Piece with the Soda Platinum Member

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    What a waste of a 2004 account.

    Enjoy your ban.
     
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    THIS, thats when mir stepped up
     
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  20. shinbone28

    shinbone28 White Belt

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    Wrong.

    Yes, Reem was getting ready to fight JDS, but the test he failed was one of the random tests he had to take due to his conditional license. JDS did not take the same test.
     

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