Depression is skyrocketing. risen 33% since 2013.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...on-rise-among-everyone-new-data-shows-n873146

https://www.bustle.com/p/depression...number-is-even-higher-for-millennials-9047775

These statistics are beyond alarming and truly a crisis w.r.t. suicides, and lost productivity for society.

My personal belief is society is being re-engineered too fast for our biology to keep up. "Success" in modern day society has left people completely at odds with their genetics.

I think others will argue it's always been there, but is better diagnosed. I'm not sure how much I believe that.

It looks to me that in the old days, the common man may have been fed a bunch of cocoa leaves to be productive in the field. Seems that fast forward 100 years and anti-depressants are feeding a bunch of hyper-individualistic workers in the work place.

I can only see this getting worse... thoughts?
 
It’s because the PHQ is administered on everyone and SSRIs are given to everyone. Depression just means your life sucks. It’s a lifestyle choice like poverty.
 
It’s because the PHQ is administered on everyone and SSRIs are given to everyone. Depression just means your life sucks. It’s a lifestyle choice like poverty.

Interesting. You see stories of people that seemingly have it all. Money, fame... yet are depressed. I lost a friend... very sad to say, brilliant person, educated to the tits, beautiful family, a 2%er job.

Do you think it's possible that the issue is more nuanced. Like element of chemistry mixed with society? Or does shit life explain it all. I think we've seen post WW2 people living in absolute squalid conditions, yet was depression rampant?

Is it possible that too good a life leads to depression?

I'm not giving answers, I'm genuinely asking questions?
 
Interesting. You see stories of people that seemingly have it all. Money, fame... yet are depressed. I lost a friend... very sad to say, brilliant person, educated to the tits, beautiful family, a 2%er job.

Do you think it's possible that the issue is more nuanced. Like element of chemistry mixed with society? Or does shit life explain it all. I think we've seen post WW2 people living in absolute squalid conditions, yet was depression rampant?

Is it possible that too good a life leads to depression?

I'm not giving answers, I'm genuinely asking questions?

I honestly believe evolution has ceased and things would have bred out are becoming common.

When we were hunter gatherers there was no time for being depressed. You either got food or died.
 
I honestly believe evolution has ceased and things would have bred out are becoming common.

When we were hunter gatherers there was no time for being depressed. You either got food or died.

That's true. The simplicity of life leaves people unfulfilled. If we look at remote tribes in Africa or South America, they're pretty darn content just not dying from malaria
 
Interesting. You see stories of people that seemingly have it all. Money, fame... yet are depressed. I lost a friend... very sad to say, brilliant person, educated to the tits, beautiful family, a 2%er job.

Do you think it's possible that the issue is more nuanced. Like element of chemistry mixed with society? Or does shit life explain it all. I think we've seen post WW2 people living in absolute squalid conditions, yet was depression rampant?

Is it possible that too good a life leads to depression?

I'm not giving answers, I'm genuinely asking questions?

There are some rare exceptions. What I described is the general reason for the rise of “depression”. It has to do with mandatory screening practices, commercials for happy pills, and the Facebook generation. There are theories regarding deficiencies in neurotransmitters but they are not proven.
 
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...on-rise-among-everyone-new-data-shows-n873146

https://www.bustle.com/p/depression...number-is-even-higher-for-millennials-9047775

These statistics are beyond alarming and truly a crisis w.r.t. suicides, and lost productivity for society.

My personal belief is society is being re-engineered too fast for our biology to keep up. "Success" in modern day society has left people completely at odds with their genetics.

I think others will argue it's always been there, but is better diagnosed. I'm not sure how much I believe that.

It looks to me that in the old days, the common man may have been fed a bunch of cocoa leaves to be productive in the field. Seems that fast forward 100 years and anti-depressants are feeding a bunch of hyper-individualistic workers in the work place.

I can only see this getting worse... thoughts?

I think it has to do with anxiety. The world has grown very uncertain the last 17 years. Constant war, economic collapse, massive job losses, home foreclosures, epic corruption, this last election... Anxiety and depression are 2 sides of the same coin and one can beget the other.
 
Thanks Obama.
 
I think it has to do with anxiety. The world has grown very uncertain the last 17 years. Constant war, economic collapse, massive job losses, home foreclosures, epic corruption, this last election... Anxiety and depression are 2 sides of the same coin and one can beget the other.


Do, NBA has a green ribbon campaign. Some serous first line stars raking in millions. What are they worried about? what be depressed?

Is there more to it? Is it that reaching the mountaintop is a disappointment because you realize you have it all, yet your meaning is lacking?
 
Yeah, it’s almost like life is hard and the only happiness is what you’ve worked for...
 
I think it has to do with anxiety. The world has grown very uncertain the last 17 years. Constant war, economic collapse, massive job losses, home foreclosures, epic corruption, this last election... Anxiety and depression are 2 sides of the same coin and one can beget the other.

But things have turned around. If the claim is true (I'm skeptical), could boredom be a factor? Or a lack of exposure to nature? Just guessing here, but I don't see how societal decline in the period referenced could explain it given that all those metrics have shown improvement. Addiction could be a factor, right? And that is something that's rising, but that probably also relates to boredom.
 
But things have turned around. If the claim is true (I'm skeptical), could boredom be a factor? Or a lack of exposure to nature? Just guessing here, but I don't see how societal decline in the period referenced could explain it given that all those metrics have shown improvement. Addiction could be a factor, right? And that is something that's rising, but that probably also relates to boredom.


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Yes, the opioid crisis has something to do with it.
But its more of a hopelessness factor. Multi-factorial.
 
is it not possible that its being reported, or discovered, now more than in the past?

it is becoming less taboo to talk about health.
 
Do, NBA has a green ribbon campaign. Some serous first line stars raking in millions. What are they worried about? what be depressed?

Is there more to it? Is it that reaching the mountaintop is a disappointment because you realize you have it all, yet your meaning is lacking?

Clinical depression can affect anybody, but is there a stat that says NBA athletes are also at 33% increased risk?
 
I think you can talk about changes in diagnostic standards when discussing anxiety or depression, but when the number of people actually killing themselves rises that demands a proper explanation.

See also: opioid crisis.
 
Thats what happens when a society only worships money and sex. Hyper individualism making everyone think theyre a snowflake.

Lack of community support and extended family, sedentary lifestyles and stuffing our bodies full of toxins and chemicals.

Corporate slaves, memelords. Lack of a base culture. Edgelord culture on the rise, crude behaviour. Praising the young and beautiful instead of the old and wise, No respect for elders.
 
I think it has to do with anxiety. The world has grown very uncertain the last 17 years. Constant war, economic collapse, massive job losses, home foreclosures, epic corruption, this last election... Anxiety and depression are 2 sides of the same coin and one can beget the other.

They are for the most part, but I feel anxiety comes first, always. Anxiety is a response to stimuli, internal or external. Depression is a reponse to that anxiety and the chemicals it relases.

I went into this pretty indepthly, in a recent thread about autism. About how infants with rapidly developing brains, forming their neural pathways being given things like phones and other devices with endless stimuli, and how it might affect their brain development, especially if the babies don't know what to do with that stimuli.

Anyways, a bunch of people called me stupid, so I stopped.
 
They are for the most part, but I feel anxiety comes first, always. Anxiety is a response to stimuli, internal or external. Depression is a reponse to that anxiety and the chemicals it relases.

I went into this pretty indepthly, in a recent thread about autism. About how infants with rapidly developing brains, forming their neural pathways being given things like phones and other devices with endless stimuli, and how it might affect their brain development, especially if the babies don't know what to do with that stimuli.

Anyways, a bunch of people called me stupid, so I stopped.

I don't know about the linkage to depression or autism, but its pretty well accepted that early child development should be relatively, if not absolutely, smart phones/ tablets/ video games free for reasons similar to what you've expressed. So not stupid at all, even if ultimately not accurate (which I can't say one way or the other).
 
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