Deontay Wilder vs. Andy Ruiz Jr.

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  1. solmu

    solmu Blue Belt

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    I think Ruiz beats Wilder but not Fury. Ruiz is very crafty, fast and a better boxer than Wilder is and I don't think Wilder can keep his composure for 12 rounds. Jab and keep your distance is the name of the game against Ruiz. I think Fury would beat Ruiz decisively.
     
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    I'm loving Ruiz and his style, so refreshing in the day of lumbering giants.
    Now you have a guy with legit skills and sky high confidence, a powerful combination.
    Any Wilder fight comes with a caveat, if he catches you clean its goodnight.. but I'd favour Ruiz.
     
  3. Ruv

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    For sure Wilder's power is always present. I think anyone who fights him has to tread cautiously. With that said Andy has a great chin, he took a solid shot from Joshua right after he got up from being knocked down. Andy has amazing composure and heart. I feel like his determination will play a great factor.
     
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  4. Seano

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    I actually think Fury is the easier fight for Ruiz. Fury will have issue with a guy who can walk through his shots and outwork him.

    Wilder just needs to stay on the outside and work that 1-2. Ruiz takes a lot of punches, but that is a recipe for disaster against Wilder.
     
  5. solmu

    solmu Blue Belt

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    Fair point. I do however think Fury is more disciplined and isn't stressed about a quick ko, so he'll use his size to keep Ruiz at a distance and go for the decision. Wilder is unpredictable for sure and carries massive power but isn't very technical. For some reason I don't think he'll be able to keep his composure for 12 rounds and Ruiz will be able to catch him or out box him.
     
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    Why would you say wilder doesn’t have a good chin.
    He took Ortiz best shots and not long after knocked him out.
    SAme with fury. He took a lot of hard shots as well.
     
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    Hagler Man of wealth and taste

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    This one is all about Ruiz’s ability to take Wilder out of here before Deontay lands big, because he definitely will at some point.

    I don’t see Ruiz doing it, but then again betting against him is risky.
     
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    djacobox372 Gold Belt

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    He BARELY took Ortiz's shots, and none of them were his "best." Fury had him hurt and he's hardly a big puncher.

    It's not that his chin is bad, but he gets tagged and rocked frequently. Ruiz doesn't, the Joshua knockdown was the first time I've ever seen him flinch and that was a PERFECT shot from one the biggest hitters in the sport.

    My view: Neither wilder or ruiz can easily absorb a solid shot from the other guy, but Ruiz is more likely to land and land often.
     
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    I might agree with you.

    Wilder got caught against Ortiz. But he survived it and it was a hard shot, I am a little surprised some people are trying to downplay it.
    There isn’t really any proof to say wilder isn’t durable. It’s really still a question mark.
    We know Ruiz can take a cannon shot from AJ though so that is impressive
     
  10. PUO3

    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Ill play along.

    Ortiz beat the hell out of him for an entire round. Not sure how that entire sequence equates to “not his best”. He literally threw everything he had and Wilder ate all of it.

    Fury the same guy who stopped Chisora? Big fella hurts everyone when he actually throws punches.

    Ruiz got put on his ass by someone fighting with a concussion.
     
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    I agree with most of what you said other than Deontay gets rocked frequently and didn’t handle Ortiz power well.

    I have nothing bad to say against Ruiz I always enjoyed his fights and was a fan of his long before the Joshua fight.
     
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    i thought the same for parker who is less skilled than fury
     
  13. Lots

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    I’d hardly say he was unperturbed. He ate some gigantic shots. Especially the straight right hand after the knock down.
     
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    tekkennlee Hot cars and fast girls

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    Wilder stops him in the middle rounds, because Wilder has quicker feet then Joshua and will hold without getting hurt on the inside, while Ruiz gets tagged with the right and smiles until he's dropped because he doesn't have any defense and fights with his head up on the inside, but he has quick hands but that won't help him because Wilder will just move and circle him jabbing probing and then Bomb Squad light's out.
     
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    Has it been all but confirmed Joshua had a concussion in the fight with Ruiz? Because a lot of posters have been confident in this narrative but I have not yet seen definitive proof.
     
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  16. Verint

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    Lean towards Wilder but not confident at all in that pick
     
  17. aries

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    He wasn't on wobbly legs, didn't do a funny dance but instead came firing back.
     
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  18. PUO3

    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Not hearing about it because AJ isnt giving excuses and its being swept under the rug.

    RR saying he knows it for a fact is good enough for me.
     
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  19. RabbitPunch36

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    Makes sense but didn't RR get banned or does someone still keep in contact.
     
  20. magical

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    I agree with everything you said. I would add to it that, along with him still being an unknown, he’s in a new territory himself (being in the limelight), so we’ll see how he handles it.

    A lot of interesting fights IMO
     

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