Law Dems blocking Senate relief bill bc it doesn't cancel $10k of student debt

[method115]

Haven't read the bill but I'm sure it's filled with shit that doesn't matter from both sides. That's usually how these bills are setup.

 

[Strychnine]

People with student debt aren't the only "starving people" though. Rather than cancel $10,000 of student debt for each individual who owes at least that amount, why not take the sum total of that amount and divide it for all Americans making, say, less than $60k?

I like that. We should watch that the relief flows down instead of up though.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Again, that's from your article that I read through. Now is not the time for this type of garbage. If there have been a ton of concessions already, concessions that you yourself approve of, why do we cancel the whole thing because "some corps are gonna get bailed out", as if we wouldn't bail them out anyway, and disregard all the other good attached to the bill? Bro. I mean like, bruh. This is the ugly side of politics. The American people aren't the ones benefiting from this trash.

Do you really think that giving Trump discretion to hand out $500B without accountability is a good response to what's going on? He came pretty close to admitting that he'd take a chunk of that for himself.

 

[Teppodama]

So the Dems are proposing a 1000+ page bill as their alternative that contains crap like provisions on election law, payment for student loans, same-day voter registration, collective bargaining powers for unions, increased fuel emission standards for airlines, and the expansion of wind and solar tax credits as well as require corporations to include gender and racial diversity data to be reported to the federal government if they receive financial backing from the government just to name a few.

Guess they're not just interested in some pork with their bill, they want the whole hog.

 

[K1levelgrappler]

people lost the ability to think critically or choose to not do so deliberately bc of current president.



maybe the democrats should have took this pandemic seriously back in january before it arrived in the USA, instead of proceeding and distracting people with a sham impeachment attempt that was the main story in the MSM.

Around the time Trump banned incoming flights from China and Pelosi and Chuck and media was calling him a racist, xenophobe, and doing “more harm than good” in fighting the pandemic according to WHO.

“they knew”, right? Just ask the current cognitive impaired democrat presidential nominee— that is if he knows what date it is today. Smh

That’s really nice but I don’t know what it has to do with this bill. Is the GOP deliberately crafting legislation that’s packed full of treats for rich people and stingy for everyone else because they’re mad about impeachment and people calling Trump racist?

 

[shockaholic12]

handouts are socialism, excuse me, communism

work for your money - no freeloading

what are you, a rusky in disguise?

Look bud, this is a totally unique and rare situation and the GOP had no idea they would have to resort to socialism whenever they faced a big problem.

It's not like literally the last time there was republican in office, Bush, he did the same thing. No no no. This never happens.

 

[Fanu]

Good luck with that. we'll see how the citizens appreciate your concern for the pollution when they cant buy food.

didnt Trump make america great again? how is it possible that citizens of the richest nation in the world cant afford food? didnt trump brag about lowest unemployment numbers on record? why give out welfare when everyone is working?

lmao

 

[KOFalconPunch]

That’s really nice but I don’t know what it has to do with this bill. Is the GOP deliberately crafting legislation that’s packed full of treats for rich people and stingy for everyone else because they’re mad about impeachment and people calling Trump racist?

you just said “that is nice” to taking this seriously before it had to come to this point? Some type of precautionary measure or even laud the POTUS for doing so with the travel ban initially? Why even take sides if you know both parties are inherently the same? TDS?

 

[shockaholic12]

So the Dems are proposing a 1000+ page bill as their alternative that contains crap like provisions on election law, payment for student loans, same-day voter registration, collective bargaining powers for unions, increased fuel emission standards for airlines, and the expansion of wind and solar tax credits as well as require corporations to include gender and racial diversity data to be reported to the federal government if they receive financial backing from the government just to name a few.

Guess they're not just interested in some pork with their bill, they want the whole hog.

Wow, so they don't want to just hand over billions in free tax payer money to a company with no strings. MADNESS! A company who takes billions in tax payer money might have to try and pollute less down the road or share very simple data, HOW COULD WE ASK THAT OF THEM?!

 

[whougonnacall]

So the real headline is
"Republicans use crisis to fleece taxpayer billions and give to their buddies"
No shocker there




No wait hang the fuck on!!!!!! .......this is the side that cannot shut the fuck up about how inefficent and wasteful goverment is yet they are ok with mitch and the boys firing a few hundred billion off with 0 to minimal checks or oversight?

 

[MMAisGod]

Do you really think that giving Trump discretion to hand out $500B without accountability is a good response to what's going on? He came pretty close to admitting that he'd take a chunk of that for himself.

I don't think that statement addresses all the good being ignored in the bill to make it, nor the fact that Democrats are m.i.a. until "Tuesday afternoon at the earliest", nor the fear mongering that Trump would just steal $500 billion and watch all other airlines and state money included in that receive nothing. I think what's happened is we're playing politics about "adding this" with people's lives when we can help them right now. It's the absolute worst time while people are literally unable to pay their bills and small businesses who would receive $350 billion are at risk of closing their doors.

 

[Teppodama]

Wow, so they don't want to just hand over billions in free tax payer money to a company with no strings. MADNESS!

Both parties need to break this effort up into two bills. One directed toward American citizens and the payments that were previously mentioned along with further medical funding specifically for Covid and one toward business. They can haggle all the want to over the business bill but right now, putting cash in the hands of people who's jobs have been effected by the government shutdowns should be the priority

 

[Jack V Savage]

I don't think that statement addresses all the good being ignored in the bill to make it, nor the fact that Democrats are m.i.a. until "Tuesday afternoon at the earliest", nor the fear mongering that Trump would just steal $500 billion and watch all other airlines and state money included in that receive nothing. I think what's happened is we're playing politics about "adding this" with people's lives when we can help them right now. It's the absolute worst time while people are literally unable to pay their bills and small businesses who would receive $350 billion are at risk of closing their doors.

I think Republicans should try removing the provision for Trump to just give money to whomever he wants and put forth a real bill that actually addresses the problems we have.

 

[blaseblah]

It has restrictions.

Not based on everything I've read

"According to a senior Democratic aide, the party's concerns with the GOP proposal center on $500 billion for corporations; stock buyback language that can be waived by the Treasury secretary; only a two-year time frame on executive compensation limits; and no provisions to protect individuals from eviction."

 

[shockaholic12]

Both parties need to break this effort up into two bills. One directed toward American citizens and the payments that were previously mentioned along with further medical funding specifically for Covid and one toward business. They can haggle all the want to over the business bill but right now, putting cash in the hands of people who's jobs have been effected by the government shutdowns should be the priority

I agree. Address the working and lower class and especially health care workers immediately. Bail out big business soon after. Not sure why they chose the opposite approach of big business first.

 

[MicroBrew]

Okay. I read your article. This is also from your attached link.









Again, that's from your article that I read through. Now is not the time for this type of garbage. If there have been a ton of concessions already, concessions that you yourself approve of, why do we cancel the whole thing because "some corps are gonna get bailed out", as if we wouldn't bail them out anyway, and disregard all the other good attached to the bill? Bro. I mean like, bruh. This is the ugly side of politics. The American people aren't the ones benefiting from this trash.

Dems aren't opposed to the Bill in its entirety. They like a lot of it. But they see aspects of the Bill as ripe for abuse.

 

[shockaholic12]

Not based on everything I've read

"According to a senior Democratic aide, the party's concerns with the GOP proposal center on $500 billion for corporations; stock buyback language that can be waived by the Treasury secretary; only a two-year time frame on executive compensation limits; and no provisions to protect individuals from eviction."

Also nothing that says these companies can't just take the bail out money then lay off a bunch of workers to maximize the bail out's impact on the higher ups and minimize it's impact on the workers who paid for it.

But as you see hear we have people spazzing out saying we need to pass this junk ASAP.

 

[KOFalconPunch]

Both parties need to break this effort up into two bills. One directed toward American citizens and the payments that were previously mentioned along with further medical funding specifically for Covid and one toward business. They can haggle all the want to over the business bill but right now, putting cash in the hands of people who's jobs have been effected by the government shutdowns should be the priority

winner winner chicken dinner

 

[Sketch]

Has anyone actually read the bill? Republicans are packing horrible cronyism into the bill and giving more cash windfalls to corporations.

Ugh, @Jack V Savage please handle this

^ Look at this right here. Practically begging another man (A complete stranger) to 'handle' some online reading for him.

These leftists have such bad TDS that they can't even allow some relief to Americans in this time of need. Nope, time to block, deny, cry, kick and scream as much as possible first. Bunch of brats.

 

[Oceanmachine]

Why are Republicans opposed to $10000 being wiped from student loans?