Law Democrats move to stop U.S. from joining Israel's military campaign against Iran

Koro_11 said:
I’m confused, I thought the Democrats were in support of US involvement in foreign wars, such as Ukraine. Why are they suddenly against involvement here?
Click to expand...
Its always about being as opposite as possible to the right for the left.
 
Maybe time for a thread merge. There's 3 threads about this on the first page.
 
Siver! said:
North Korea actually does have nuclear weapons and is a very active anti-Western military force and treats it's population like utter shit.

When do we need to attack them, I don't understand why we aren't doing that today, right now?
Click to expand...
So that’s obviously not happening BECAUSE they have nuclear weapons, would’ve been nice if someone went in there before they had them though.

Anyway I’m not advocating for US getting involved, would be nice if Israel just takes care of it by themselves..
 
Seano said:
Its always about being as opposite as possible to the right for the left.
Click to expand...
That’s what it seems like, for decades I remember the left being pro Soviet and pro Russia. Then Trump says one nice thing about Putin and all of a sudden Russia is the worst country on earth for them.

It’s the same thing with Covid, I have no fucking idea how that ever became a partisan issue. You always imagine the left being against big corporations, like pharmaceutical companies, but the moment they realized most conservatives are against it, they suddenly became lobbyist for big Pharma.
 
Koro_11 said:
I’m confused, I thought the Democrats were in support of US involvement in foreign wars, such as Ukraine. Why are they suddenly against involvement here?
Click to expand...
It's difficult to care about anything the current Democratic Party says. It just seems like they wait to see what the right supports and then put themselves on the other end of it. With Trump as President, they hate everything now. They continue to lower the bar on decorum and decency.
 
Confucamus said:
It's difficult to care about anything the current Democratic Party says. It just seems like they wait to see what the right supports and then put themselves on the other end of it. With Trump as President, they hate everything now. They continue to lower the bar on decorum and decency.
Click to expand...
<36>
 
payton said:
I don’t personally oppose all of these conflicts, but it does show republicans being more aggressive than democrats. Democrats have taken some military action, but not in this scale.

Conservatives were bloodthirsty war mongers for 80 years before Trump introduced them to isolationism. Naturally, they all got on board with their white king.

Yes, the dems are not perfect on war but if we are just going to look at post wwii jesus team is by far the worse of the two. Just ask yourself, Which party is constantly pushing for more military funding?
Click to expand...
Ww1
Ww2
Civil war
Korea
 
Confucamus said:
It's difficult to care about anything the current Democratic Party says. It just seems like they wait to see what the right supports and then put themselves on the other end of it. With Trump as President, they hate everything now. They continue to lower the bar on decorum and decency.
Click to expand...
Yeah, kinda like during covid, they went from hating big corporations to shilling for big pharma practically overnight once they heard most conservatives were against the "vaccine".
 
Koro_11 said:
That’s what it seems like, for decades I remember the left being pro Soviet and pro Russia. Then Trump says one nice thing about Putin and all of a sudden Russia is the worst country on earth for them.
Click to expand...
Russia is actively attempting to divide and weaken our nation. Disinformation campaigns, troll farms, etc. we don’t need to relitigate if trumps campaign actively worked with Russia, but I’d point to the mountain of proof that they were putting a hand on the scales when it came to our elections.

Idk about the rest of the folks on the left, but that’s when I started seeing them as an enemy.
 
Koro_11 said:
I’m confused, I thought the Democrats were in support of US involvement in foreign wars, such as Ukraine. Why are they suddenly against involvement here?
Click to expand...
Confused must be your default state then .
 
Siver! said:
North Korea actually does have nuclear weapons and is a very active anti-Western military force and treats it's population like utter shit.

When do we need to attack them, I don't understand why we aren't doing that today, right now?
Click to expand...
I think the difference between North Korea and Iran is that Iran is a country that actively says it's objective is the obliteration of another country. Even Russia during the cold war was trying the economic/ideologic way of dominance. Iran is just "fuck it, death to Israel".
They do chant "Death to America", so we should check their ballistic missiles range, but other than that, it's mainly a Israel problem. And a big one.
 
Koro_11 said:
I’m confused, I thought the Democrats were in support of US involvement in foreign wars, such as Ukraine. Why are they suddenly against involvement here?
Click to expand...
"Prohibits DIRECT action".
I don't think providing supplies is direct action. Do you?
 
Koro_11 said:
I’m confused, I thought the Democrats were in support of US involvement in foreign wars, such as Ukraine. Why are they suddenly against involvement here?
Click to expand...

Cause they dont wanna be 40+ trillion in debt by the end of trumps insane term most likely. Also, they dont want further hostility towards american citizens as they travel abroad. Israel and the US are not the most popular places globally atm.
 
Blayt7hh said:
The bill isn’t to stop funding Israel. We are not bombing Russia. This is a false comparison
Click to expand...
Sure I know it’s not the same thing, but do you think most Democrats would have been against direct involvement in the Ukraine.
 
oldshadow said:
No when Korean or Vietnam and troops were sent in. Did congress vote on Iraq or Afghanistan.
Click to expand...
Yes congress did vote and approve the use of forces in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

However, when it comes to bombing the president has had a lot of leeway to do what he wants without congressional approval. Unfortunately that is something not unique to Trump, but should be reined in imo
 
Koro_11 said:
Sure I know it’s not the same thing, but do you think most Democrats would have been against direct involvement in the Ukraine.
Click to expand...
Yes. I’ve seen you and another poster ask this but outside of a few nutters no one wanted to go to war with Russia
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
1,268,911
Messages
57,566,611
Members
175,752
Latest member
TYR-I

Share this page

Back
Top