Demetrious Johnson is NOT P4P #1

[Luminaire]

Now that DJ has defeated his biggest challenger at 125 lbs for the second time and this time even more convincingly than before, it seems most people are willing to jump him ahead of Aldo (Injury Time) and Jones (Chronic Fuck Ups) to the top of the P4P list.

But this simply isn't the case. The flyweight division is the thinnest division in the sport. In terms of roster and depth of talent. There is simply not a big talent pool of adult men that are small enough to make the 125lb fight limit. Similarly, the next thinnest division is heavyweight because most men aren't 6'4 240+ lb behemoths.

There are 35 UFC Flyweights on the roster and 37 Heavyweights.

Compare that to 117 Lightweights and 116 Welterweights... the two most talent rich divisions in MMA. The reason is simple, most adult males are of mostly average size and would fit in to these two weight classes. Featherweight has 68 and Middleweight has 69 roster spots. Do you see the trend?

So while yes, DJ is dominating the thinnest and arguably weakest division in the UFC I cannot say I think he is P4P #1.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

Fringe top 5 IMO.

 

[Hungry Friend]

DJ is an incredibly dominant champion but p4p rankings in general are a joke. Gotta give you props for your name being a CT reference though.

 

[Luminaire]

Gotta give you props for your name being a CT reference though.

Love that people still catch that from time to time.

 

[Fatal Catro]

Top 3 no doubt.

 

[Tamriel Terror]

hes amazing, but your right, hes not the p4p best. He is in a weaker division, not nearly as bad as ronda though.

 

[Train.Harder]

File this under "Shit Thats Obvious to Everyone"

 

[Minnja]

There is simply not a big talent pool of adult men that are small enough to make the 125lb fight limit. Similarly, the next thinnest division is heavyweight because most men aren't 6'4 240+ lb behemoths.

There are 35 UFC Flyweights on the roster and 37 Heavyweights.

This is true for now, but it's not because there aren't enough people in the world who can make that weight. The issue is moreso because the sport isn't popular enough in countries with smaller people (on average) and since there is no strong history of lower-weight MMA, there aren't too many people looking into it at that weight.

Over time if the UFC becomes more popular then the FLW division should get much deeper. Not jsut from other countries, but also from the USA.

I'm sure there are plenty of people whom are between 5'2-5'8 that weigh between 140-150.

If FLW completely dies because there are no fighters at the weight class then it is a failure of MMA's popularity rather then there just not being enough people at that weight.

 

[Minnja]

But I do agree that he's not #1 p4p. I'd have him somewhere between 4-6.

 

[ill0giKaL]

I agree obv Jones should still be #1 and Aldo at #2. Aldo's rap sheet of opponets trumps DJ's by A LOT. I don't take the whole P4P seriously, but I think they're just trying to blow air up peoples butt's to make DJ more of a draw

 

[empsim]

he's not, but how else is joe rogan supposed to hype him up?

 

[Luvhawky]

All that doesn't mean he isn't the P4P #1, but it does mean if is harder to prove he is. It's like the other org argument. Some guys come in and rise to the top, but while they are in the other org, it is hard to see if they can compete with the UFC guys. But regardless what org they are in, they are the fighter they are.

 

[Dutch Rudder]

Now that DJ has defeated his biggest challenger at 125 lbs for the second time and this time even more convincingly than before, it seems most people are willing to jump him ahead of Aldo (Injury Time) and Jones (Chronic Fuck Ups) to the top of the P4P list.

But this simply isn't the case. The flyweight division is the thinnest division in the sport. In terms of roster and depth of talent. There is simply not a big talent pool of adult men that are small enough to make the 125lb fight limit. Similarly, the next thinnest division is heavyweight because most men aren't 6'4 240+ lb behemoths.

There are 35 UFC Flyweights on the roster and 37 Heavyweights.

Compare that to 117 Lightweights and 116 Welterweights... the two most talent rich divisions in MMA. The reason is simple, most adult males are of mostly average size and would fit in to these two weight classes. Featherweight has 68 and Middleweight has 69 roster spots. Do you see the trend?

So while yes, DJ is dominating the thinnest and arguably weakest division in the UFC I cannot say I think he is P4P #1.

Pretty sure Dana and crew were barking about Ronda being the best P4P eva just like a week ago....and I'm pretty sure the womens BW is the thinnest division in the history of MMA with 26 fighters on the roster, and 24 of them are cans....
So if you listen to Dana...well that's your first problem right there.

Just noticed Kedzie is still on the roster....I wonder how many other fighters are not active or retired in BW lol

 

[RoscoeRufus]

lmao @ you putting stock in a p4p ranking

 

[FlyingKimurabar]

His division is too weak. Only way I'll ever give him #1 p4p is if all the other top p4p guys lose, or he moves up at wins the BW belt.

Till then Weidman and Aldo are above him, and Jones if he comes back too. They're dominating much, much better divisions.

 

[Pwent]

Jones is #1. A 125 lb jones would murder MM

 

[Buff]

I fucking hate P4P talk because of this type of shit... He couldn't heat any champion from any weight above him, so why do people compare him?

The ufc can force him down our throats as something great but nobody gives a shit because he's a boring borderline midget with enormous ears instead of a personality in a shallow division with very few legit contenders.

I used to kind of like him until they forced him on me... Honestly I didn't even watch the Dosdon fight, it was 0430 and I'd seen the fights I wanted to watch from the card.

 

[igordog]

p4p isn't real and doesn't matter so why do you care?

 

[Kelman]

Now that DJ has defeated his biggest challenger at 125 lbs for the second time and this time even more convincingly than before, it seems most people are willing to jump him ahead of Aldo (Injury Time) and Jones (Chronic Fuck Ups) to the top of the P4P list.

But this simply isn't the case. The flyweight division is the thinnest division in the sport. In terms of roster and depth of talent. There is simply not a big talent pool of adult men that are small enough to make the 125lb fight limit. Similarly, the next thinnest division is heavyweight because most men aren't 6'4 240+ lb behemoths.

There are 35 UFC Flyweights on the roster and 37 Heavyweights.

Compare that to 117 Lightweights and 116 Welterweights... the two most talent rich divisions in MMA. The reason is simple, most adult males are of mostly average size and would fit in to these two weight classes. Featherweight has 68 and Middleweight has 69 roster spots. Do you see the trend?

So while yes, DJ is dominating the thinnest and arguably weakest division in the UFC I cannot say I think he is P4P #1.

I don't mean to be flippant, but DJ isn't even close to p4p#1. He may be top 5 or whatever, but I really don't see how he is anywhere near Jones or Aldo at this point. While DJ was losing to Pickett and Cruz, drawing with McCall, and being punched all over the cage by Dodson first time out, Aldo and Jones were just winning, winning, winning. And in recent years, Aldo has beaten Edgar and Mendes, while Jones has beaten Cormier and Gustafsson. Johnson hasn't been beating the same calibre of fighter, although the Benavidez rematch was damn impressive.