Deconstructing MMA Myths... [Part 6] - All Fights Start from Standin´ Position...

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    Today :[Brazilian Vale Tudo Scene]

    MYTH?: All fights start from Standin´ Position.

    That´s a...myth! [almost...]

    @ World Vale Tudo Championship 10, Antonio Conceicao lost via DQ, that´s right, but not after 8mn45, was after...19 mns and 20 sec!

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    A BJJ fighter (even used the GI), he actually started the fight in the butt scoot position since the very beginning, and...till the end!

    Indeed, some inaccuracies in fighters´bio...

    Sergei Bytchkov
    WIN vs
    Antonio Conceicao
    DQ (Butt Scooting)
    N/A 1 8:45


    http://www.sherdog.com/events/WVC-10-World-Vale-Tudo-Championship-10-384 :

    https://www.tapology.com/fightcente...orld-vale-tudo-championship-10-demolition-day

    https://www.mma-core.com/events/WVC_10/16548


    Any other inaccuracies that you might remember?



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  3. AimedWithV Wound in the Force

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    @gono btw what about Tapology?
    Same results?
     
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    Tapology only says it was a KO/TKO..

    Tapology & Sherdog probably didnt watch both fights, the Ataev one in Rings and the Bytchkov one in WVC...
     
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    3rd 'inaccuracy':

    @ IAFC - Russian Open Cup 3 [August 29, 1997 - Moscow, Russia]:

    Ivan Chestowukov vs Igor Guerus

    http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Igor-Gerus-2772

    WIN Artyom Vilgulevsky IAFC - Absolute Fighting Russian Open Cup 3
    Aug / 29 / 1997 TKO (Doctor Stoppage)

    But...That day, he fought against Ivan Chestowukov :

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    4th 'inaccuracy':

    Marcos Vieira vs Ailton dos Santos


    Was @ BVF 6 - Campeonato Brasileiro de Vale Tudo 1 [Nov / 01 / 1996]

    https://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Marcos-Vieira-2524

    Submission (Strikes)

    But Marcos Vieira actually threw the towel, probably due to an injury, or exhaustion perhaps...

    @ 2m30:


     
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    Regarding the innacuracies in Fight Finder, @jei should be able to help you set them right. He has access to the database.
     
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    Thank you europe1. If anyone spots inaccuracies with Sherdog's Fight Finder, please let me know either in a post or by PM, with video/other corroborating evidence showing the more accurate information, and we'll check it out.
     
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    9th 'inaccuracy':

    Lucas Silva de Jesus vs Marcelo de Oliveira :

    Was @ IVC 11

    https://www.sherdog.com/events/IVC-11-The-Tournament-is-Back-281


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    > Submission (No Apparent Reason)... but...was actually: Retirement [injury > broken tooth]

    https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-teeth-kept-flyin´-ivc-31.3907739/


    This retirement was only explained later, in the VHS, when Promotor/Ref and...Commentator Segio Batarelli would give his explanation (that´s probably why no MMA sites understood the real reason behind these retirements...).
     
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    10th 'inaccuracy':

    > Nilson de Castro vs Alexandre Barros :

    Was @ IVC 11

    https://www.sherdog.com/events/IVC-11-The-Tournament-is-Back-281

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    > TKO (Cut)... but...was actually: Retirement [injury > broken tooth]

    https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-teeth-kept-flyin´-ivc-31.3907739/

    This retirement was only explained later, in the VHS, when Promotor/Ref and...Commentator Segio Batarelli would give his explanation (that´s probably why no MMA sites understood the real reason behind these retirements...).
     
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    11th 'inaccuracy':

    > Gilberto dos Santos vs Edson Bispo :

    Was @ IVC 11

    https://www.sherdog.com/events/IVC-11-The-Tournament-is-Back-281

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    This retirement was the easiest to understand when it happened (check Santos´reaction):

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    > Submission (Strikes)... but...was actually: Retirement [injury > broken tooth]

    https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-teeth-kept-flyin´-ivc-31.3907739/

    This retirement was only explained later, in the VHS, when Promotor/Ref and...Commentator Segio Batarelli would give his explanation (that´s probably why no MMA sites understood the real reason behind these retirements...).
     
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