Deconstructing MMA Myths... [Part 20] - Judges & MMA 'Ideology'...

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MYTH: Cecil Peoples was the worst Judge in MMA History.


Judges´ MMA 'Ideology' is something pretty overlooked, sadly...
The Scoring Criterias & the Judges´ understanding of these criterias could be an interesting case study...
Moreover, its relevancy is real when it comes to some fighters prone to winning/losing by decision (Davis, Edgar, Bendo etc...)

From what I gathered around here, this narrative about Cecil Peoples comes mainly from GSP´s fans regarding the 1st BJ fight.

However, if we consider the 'Split Decision Dissent´ criteria:
[I considered the 25 most experienced Judges here: > 100 Decisions]


JUDGE - Decisions - Split Dec. Dissent - Ratio

Dave TIRELLI - 140 - 5 - 3,57%
David LETHABY - 175 - 7 - 4,00%
Nelson HAMILTON - 199 - 8 - 4,02%
Junichiro KAMIJO - 174 - 7 - 4,02%
Richard BERTRAND - 149 - 6 - 4,03%
Douglas CROSBY - 245 - 12 - 4,90%
Howard HUGHES - 122 - 6 - 4,92%
Mark COLLETT - 175 - 9 - 5,14%
Dave HAGEN - 113 - 6 - 5,31%
Jeff MULLEN - 205 - 11 - 5,37%
Henry GUEARY - 101 - 6 - 5,94%
Sal D'AMATO - 513 - 31 - 6,04%
Derek CLEARY - 309 - 19 - 6,15%
Cecil PEOPLES - 194 - 13 - 6,70%
Ben CARTLIDGE - 256 - 18 - 7,03%
Glenn TROWBRIDGE - 282 - 20 - 7,09%
Chris LEE - 363 - 26 - 7,16%
Cardo URSO - 202 - 15 - 7,43%
Michael BELL - 130 - 10 - 7,69%
Tony WEEKS - 295 - 23 - 7,80%
Marcos ROSALES - 305 - 25 - 8,20%
Adalaide BYRD - 177 - 15 - 8,47%
Patricia MORSE JARMAN - 161 - 14 - 8,70%
Eric COLÓN - 180 - 16 - 8,89%
Lester GRIFFIN - 144 - 17 - 11,81%​


Some of these [High Profile] Split Dec. :

Michael BELL:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/70...f;jsessionid=18A08574AFAEBEF9190499B90BC313E5

Richard BERTRAND:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/36...z;jsessionid=96B25A5FE9558DB75F4C1493CF73577D

Adalaide BYRD:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/71...n;jsessionid=96B25A5FE9558DB75F4C1493CF73577D
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/70...l;jsessionid=96B25A5FE9558DB75F4C1493CF73577D

Derek CLEARY:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/84...n;jsessionid=38D41D6BFECFBA08CF15691FDEC4D5FC
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/72...s;jsessionid=38D41D6BFECFBA08CF15691FDEC4D5FC
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/65...n;jsessionid=38D41D6BFECFBA08CF15691FDEC4D5FC

Mark COLLETT:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/59...s;jsessionid=38D41D6BFECFBA08CF15691FDEC4D5FC

Douglas CROSBY:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/60...l;jsessionid=38D41D6BFECFBA08CF15691FDEC4D5FC

Dave HAGEN:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/91...r;jsessionid=7694B35C906CD39BF6A278C2EC56BF1F
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/72...n;jsessionid=7694B35C906CD39BF6A278C2EC56BF1F

Henry GUEARY:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/31...n;jsessionid=1CE05388AEA4FC0740752C9761828899

Junichiro KAMIJO:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/20...n;jsessionid=19F613DB07801EA19B4270A3375AAC3F
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/41...s;jsessionid=19F613DB07801EA19B4270A3375AAC3F

Nelson HAMILTON:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/20...a;jsessionid=7694B35C906CD39BF6A278C2EC56BF1F
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/17...z;jsessionid=7694B35C906CD39BF6A278C2EC56BF1F

Chris LEE:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/10...a;jsessionid=3EE44E6F418BE3561C08A4B6E5358149
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/42...y;jsessionid=3EE44E6F418BE3561C08A4B6E5358149
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/59...m;jsessionid=3EE44E6F418BE3561C08A4B6E5358149
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/62...z;jsessionid=3EE44E6F418BE3561C08A4B6E5358149
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/89...i;jsessionid=3EE44E6F418BE3561C08A4B6E5358149

Patricia MORSE JARMAN:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/12...a;jsessionid=9EF588C3BFB76350D6B205A138253D50
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/11...z;jsessionid=9EF588C3BFB76350D6B205A138253D50

Lester GRIFFIN:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/66...a;jsessionid=1CE05388AEA4FC0740752C9761828899

Tony WEEKS:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/67...t;jsessionid=FA0D92E570AE037DE786D76A5779F76D
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/52...b;jsessionid=FA0D92E570AE037DE786D76A5779F76D
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/42...y;jsessionid=FA0D92E570AE037DE786D76A5779F76D
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/36...r;jsessionid=FA0D92E570AE037DE786D76A5779F76D

Jeff MULLEN:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/82...s;jsessionid=9EF588C3BFB76350D6B205A138253D50
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/72...t;jsessionid=9EF588C3BFB76350D6B205A138253D50

Cardo URSO:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/66...m;jsessionid=683F1669EE501E0CCDDC76F336703B88
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/60...o;jsessionid=683F1669EE501E0CCDDC76F336703B88

Sal D'AMATO:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/91...o;jsessionid=66C2EA3A63366FF3394D0295A9BE544F
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/90...a;jsessionid=66C2EA3A63366FF3394D0295A9BE544F
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/77...x;jsessionid=66C2EA3A63366FF3394D0295A9BE544F
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/67...w;jsessionid=66C2EA3A63366FF3394D0295A9BE544F
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/57...s;jsessionid=66C2EA3A63366FF3394D0295A9BE544F
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/4558/Raphael-Assunção-vs-T.J.-Dillashaw;jsessionid=66C2EA3A63366FF3394D0295A9BE544F
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/41...l;jsessionid=66C2EA3A63366FF3394D0295A9BE544F
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/13...z;jsessionid=66C2EA3A63366FF3394D0295A9BE544F

Glenn TROWBRIDGE:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/47...s;jsessionid=7483550E7CCF777AE524C38A67733601
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/47...d;jsessionid=7483550E7CCF777AE524C38A67733601
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/13...z;jsessionid=7483550E7CCF777AE524C38A67733601

Marcos ROSALES:
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/92...n;jsessionid=EDED18733403FA2DF5758B4F992E7B00
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/88...s;jsessionid=EDED18733403FA2DF5758B4F992E7B00
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/73...n;jsessionid=EDED18733403FA2DF5758B4F992E7B00
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/75...o;jsessionid=EDED18733403FA2DF5758B4F992E7B00
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/36...l;jsessionid=EDED18733403FA2DF5758B4F992E7B00
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/36...z;jsessionid=EDED18733403FA2DF5758B4F992E7B00

Cecil PEOPLES:

Obviously, further study about any 'weird' scoring, even in case of unanimous decisions,
should be relevant too here...


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#CecilBless


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<mma4> Solid work, Cecil peoples still sucks as far as the vast majority of the MMA community is conconcerned though. Those who are aware of his existence anyway.
 
Adalaide BYRD

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MMA judging is shit and Cecil is an MMA judge so by extension he himself is shit at this profession.
 
Whoever scored Bisping vs hamill
And Bisping vs Hendo 2

Should never even watch MMA again
 
Whoever scored Bisping vs hamill
And Bisping vs Hendo 2

Should never even watch MMA again

Jeff Mullen (American) and Cecil Peoples (American) scored the fight 29-28 the British judge Chris Watts went 30-27 Hamill.
Jeff Mullen (American) and Andreas Gruner (Swedish) 48-47 Andy Roberts (the only British one) 49-46 in Hendo 2.

Bisping clearly beat Hendo 3-2 though so you really have no point.

Jeff Mullen (American) also scored the Bisping vs Silva fight for Bisping.
 
Jeff Mullen (American) and Cecil Peoples (American) scored the fight 29-28 the British judge Chris Watts went 30-27 Hamill.
Jeff Mullen (American) and Andreas Gruner (Swedish) 48-47 Andy Roberts (the only British one) 49-46 in Hendo 2.

Bisping clearly beat Hendo 3-2 though so you really have no point.

Jeff Mullen (American) also scored the Bisping vs Silva fight for Bisping.

I see no universe where Bisping took 3 rounds against Hendo

2 sure

But 3... nope

Thanks for the research though
 
Hi Dana. My name is ******** and I'm a Cecil People's black belt. I just want to know what steps I have to take to get into the UFC in the future.

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Jeff Mullen (American) and Cecil Peoples (American) scored the fight 29-28 the British judge Chris Watts went 30-27 Hamill.
Jeff Mullen (American) and Andreas Gruner (Swedish) 48-47 Andy Roberts (the only British one) 49-46 in Hendo 2.

Bisping clearly beat Hendo 3-2 though so you really have no point.

Jeff Mullen (American) also scored the Bisping vs Silva fight for Bisping.
BS-Ping´s 'victory' over Hendo was nothing but clear, Im afraid...
 
He's only not the worst because there are some really terrible judges. His comments about how leg kicks certainly not finishing fights and his general opinion of not scoring kicks is not something a judge should think or say.
 
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