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Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by Bama Zulu, Aug 25, 2005.

  1. Bama Zulu

    Bama Zulu Blue Belt

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    I'm still pretty new to BJJ (About 2 weeks) and I wanted to buy a book to supplement my training.

    Now my choices come down to these two:

    Brazilian Jiu-jitsu Basics: Mastering The Essential Techniques - Gene Simco
    Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: Theory & Technique - Renzo Gracie

    I hear that the Theory & Technique one was good but it's really unorganized. Also, my academy has the book at the school so maybe I should just get the Gene one.
     
  2. migo**

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    I don't like any of the books that Kid Peligro co-writes. I've read the intro to Simco's book and it's really well done. I'd definitely go for it. I think bjj.org has both of them reviewed.
     
  3. Asel1

    Asel1 BAd [email protected]

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    what about tapes?
     
  4. Bmonk**

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    I liked Machado's "Blackbelt techniques", which was co-written by Kid Peligro.

    He seems to co-write every BJJ book that comes out on the market.
     
  5. migo**

    migo** Guest

    Mastering Jujutsu by Renzo which was co-written by Danaher was much better than his others. I haven't come across the Machado one yet.
     
  6. Tegelsten

    Tegelsten Team Misstag

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    Dont buy the simco one.. if he makes enough money he will probably buy a red belt and claim 10th dan :p
     
  7. mannywankenobi

    mannywankenobi The Sherdog Legend

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    I have almost all the books that Peligro co-writes. My favorites of all of them is a toss up between Royler Gracie's Submission Grappling and Renzo's Mastering JuJitsu.
     
  8. migo**

    migo** Guest

    Is there some joke I'm missing?
     
  9. mogway

    mogway Blue Belt

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    get some videos. IMHO you learn much better than with books
     
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    hfam95** White Belt

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    yes simco paid some people to promote him to brown. then he tried to do it again for black. When they refused he fired them. Finally got someone to do it for him. Read about it here http://www.jiujitsugear.com/forum/index.php?topic=43970.0
     
  11. blanko

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    get the "passing the guard" book instead.
     
  12. Resident A-hole

    Resident A-hole Orange Belt

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    Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: Theory & Technique - Renzo & Royler Gracie

    I have this book & it's great. I consider it sorta like a BJJ bible, I'm always going back & looking up stuff in it. Lots of detail & great photos of the moves. It covers all the basics & goes into a lot of advanced moves. Especially with you being very new to BJJ, I strongly suggest it.
     
  13. Kyle Johnson

    Kyle Johnson Amateur Fighter

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    do you plan to just stick to grappling compatitions or do you want to learn BJJ for mma use. If your going for just learning BJJ to graple go with any of Renzo's. If your want to learn to apply it to mma i would pick up Bas Rutten's Big Book of Combat and the DVD's that go with the books. These movies and books have helped me allot
     
  14. ColClaypool

    ColClaypool Blue Belt

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    I think the Renzo Gracie book is very boreing. I wouldnt recoment it. There are some good points to it, but not as many as you would like for the price you pay.
     
  15. jjmuaythaiguy

    jjmuaythaiguy Brown Belt

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    Me too, I like them all. I got the ones mentioned above and in this thread. Actually I went to a several used book stores and got them at such a unbelievable prices it was almost free. For instance Royler and Renzo's BJJ Techniques was like $8, JJ Machado's $7 etc. I also got Renzo to sign the Mastering Jiu Jitsu Techniques when he was in Hawaii. I say get them all and review it whenever you want. I mean all the above mentioned people won countless competitions including ADCC with no gi. They must know their art well.
     
  16. Dash_Riprock

    Dash_Riprock Yellow Belt

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    Anybody else like Royce's "top game" book. Still pretty basic stuff, but it goes a step farther than Renzo and Royer's basic book.
     
  17. Sorry but if you think Kid Peligro is not a great author and/or co-writer of BJJ books on technique then you are an idiot. I find his books the most rewarding, very clear explanations and perfect color photos on exact positioning. I would recommend you get the BJJ:Theory and Technique book by Renzo and Royler. Not only is it the best selling martial arts book in the world, it's perfect. For submission grappling Royler's book "Submission Grappling" is phenomenal. Renzo's book "Mastering Jiu-Jitsu" is very good but more so in a different way. It's not only about grappling but the entire MMA game and is very historical in terms of the roots of BJJ and how MMA has evolved. It gives various techniques for the three phases of combat in seperate sections and has a section dedicated to self-defense at the end. If you want a great read, then that is the book to get. If you want great technique, get Peligro's books.

    I find books help way more than videos. After all you can bring them to the dojo with you and pick new techniques for any position right then and there and add them to your game. You can't really bring a video to the dojo right? DVD's are good to watch at home though and can be helpful, but I find books are deeper and get you to understand the finer points of subtle technique that makes a hold that much more tighter or anything else. I also retain much more information after focusing on words and pictures than video as it's easier for me to stay concentrated.
     
  18. Big Red

    Big Red Green Belt

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    I have Renzo's theory book. For me, a relative beginner, it has helped & given me some incite about ways to apparoach grappling. Ignore the layout of blue belt technique pages from the rest etc. because there are stuff in black belt section that we have been taught. It is probably one of the best for a beginner. it covers the basic techniques & gives detailed descriptions. I'd recommend it.
     
  19. mcbadboy170

    mcbadboy170 Orange Belt

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    Royler's book is the best then Renzo's. DON'T BUY THE SEMCO BOOK, PERIOD!
     
  20. JABobo3

    JABobo3 Orange Belt

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    f*ck all that. If you're think of getting the renzo/royler book just get Gracie Jiu-Jitsu by Helio. Tons o shit for you.
     

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