Deadlift sticking point

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I have a problem with the very beginning of the deadlift picking it up off the ground. It seems like I hit it with all I have at the beginning and it doesn't move and it isn't util about 2-3 seconds after the intial pull that it starts to come up.

I was wondering is their any thing that I can supplement my deadlift workouts that could help me with this, or do I just need to stop being a puss and keep deadlifting and intially it will work itself out?

I appreciate the advice, comments and thank you.

-Rob
 
From what I've read, platform deadlifts can help with strength off the bottom. In terms of how to incorporate that into your routine or set/rep IDK.

 
dave tate would say keep deadlifting. post a video of your form.

i've never really hit a sticking point in deadlifts because frankly i don't do them very often. i've noticed great gains on the deadlift simply by squatting a lot, and it's no surprise since they activate so many of the same muscles. maybe just doing either of those things more (squatting and deadlifting) will help you, especially if you're still at a beginner's stage in your lifting.
 
Strange problem, I would think that repetition would cause it to go away.
 
Whenever I've done deficit deadlifts the feeling isn't anything like the initial pull on a deadlift. Maybe I'm doing it wrong but I say just deadlift more and your deadlift will go up.
 
You said at the beginning. Does that mean you do touch and go? If so the solution would be to stop that and start a deadlift, as in from a dead stop. Some PL's even let go of the weight at the top. It means you have to restart your positioning a bit and treat the reps like singles, but its a solution.
 
I love deficit deadlifts, I only do them once a month and instead of standing on a platform, I just use 25 lbs plates.
 
TS, how many reps can you do in a set this way? If it's just singles or doubles I'd say you need to do some platform deads and lift lighter some of the time.

But if this is happening consistently on high-rep sets like a 5 x 5, I'd say you need to switch to platform deads almost exclusively until this sticking point improves.
 
Power cleans might help a lot actually. If it's taking a few seconds to recruit all the muscle fibers needed to lift the weight, the best way to fix that is to develop more power, and the power clean does that in a very similar motion to the deadlift. Of course you could also just use lighter weight and deadlift more powerfully. Basically anything that will train your system to engage 100% strength as quickly as possible.
 
Power cleans might help a lot actually. If it's taking a few seconds to recruit all the muscle fibers needed to lift the weight, the best way to fix that is to develop more power, and the power clean does that in a very similar motion to the deadlift. Of course you could also just use lighter weight and deadlift more powerfully. Basically anything that will train your system to engage 100% strength as quickly as possible.

I predict an enright comment about how a 200 lbs power clean couldn't help you deadlift 500 lbs.
 
Deficit deads, and snatch grip deads.

And, if you're doing your deadlifts first, one thing that has helped me pull better has been to warm up with a couple sets of front squats first to help activate your quads more.
 
I predict an enright comment about how a 200 lbs power clean couldn't help you deadlift 500 lbs.

Well if your main problem is power/speed and muscle activation...I don't see why not. But hey I'm no expert.
 
I predict an enright comment about how a 200 lbs power clean couldn't help you deadlift 500 lbs.

I see you are still angry because I have a cool ass hat, and you don't.



To the TS, you need stronger legs.
 
TS - it SOUNDS like you're not getting your whole body tight before you pull. I would also bet that when you start your pull your hips rise for a second of so until you reach a more powerful pulling position for you and then the bar starts to move.

If either or both of these is the case I would suggest:

Getting into position, using the bar to pull yourself to the bar and thus tighten your back, and start pressing down with the heels. Your goal would be to take about 50% of the weight of the bar in hand BEFORE you start your pull. Then when you can feel that everything is "locked" in place, all you need to do is press with the other 50% to get the bar moving. This should lead to faster, more confident pulls off the ground, again if the two criteria I listed are occurring. Hope that helps!
 
I'm not a great deadlifter(my best ever is still sub-500), but experienced the same sort of problem. I felt zero power off the ground and couldn't find the 'groove' to start the movement.

I fixed this by beginning my deads off hooks (mid-thigh level). Starting with the descent seemed to keep me in a more natural, athletic position and quickly corrected any problems I was having with the bottom portion of the lift.

Then I went back to starting from the floor.
 
I appreciate all the comments.. It could be that I'm not staying tight and I will see on Tuesday when I deadlift. I guess I hadn't paid much attention to this so I will look out for it next time

Thank you very much guys for the comments/critique. I will try to get a better video up sometime in the next couple of weeks to show a clear video than the one in the Sherdogs Strongest thread of me deadlifting the weight.
 
TS - it SOUNDS like you're not getting your whole body tight before you pull. I would also bet that when you start your pull your hips rise for a second of so until you reach a more powerful pulling position for you and then the bar starts to move.

If either or both of these is the case I would suggest:

Getting into position, using the bar to pull yourself to the bar and thus tighten your back, and start pressing down with the heels. Your goal would be to take about 50% of the weight of the bar in hand BEFORE you start your pull. Then when you can feel that everything is "locked" in place, all you need to do is press with the other 50% to get the bar moving. This should lead to faster, more confident pulls off the ground, again if the two criteria I listed are occurring. Hope that helps!

+1 on this. I tried it today and it definitely made a world of difference having my back tight the entire rep and well before I try to pull the weight off the floor.
 
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