DC vs Brock might be a bet the house bet.

[Ruhler]

UFC heavyweight fights are not safe bets in general You need really good odds for them. Im gonna guess that the odds by fight night will be almost even for them because a LOT of dumb people and wrestling fans will bet on Lesnar, which will push down the logical choice of DC as the favorite. I'd check the line on DC by DECISION, you may get huge return on that.

 

[Adamant]

Brock could be the next Matt Serra.

 

[Deleted member 510653]

Brockroidz has a chance early with his first steroid vanilla gorilla rage-out.

After that = Done, son.

 

[snackgod]

A shitload of people are thinking Brock can win this. And as much as MMA is MMA, DC is going to steamroll Brock. I just can't see a way Brock can win without a lot of luck. And that makes this a pretty golden bet. I am thinking $100, but if the odds get stupid, I might up it to $1000.

not sure who you seen taking brock but make any bet with themyou can.

 

[snackgod]

Did you see how Brock pushed DC, then how DC pushed Brock?

Size Matters

I love you DC

take it you didn't see the cain fight,.

 

[snackgod]

No shit. Everyone is discounting the massive size and strength advantage that Lesnar has. DC isnt big enough to throw Lesnar around and Lesnar can easily ragdoll DC.

did u not see the cain fight.

 

[snackgod]

The only thing is DC is at that age where he can look old overnight

And who knows, brock may have gotten to the bottom of it and look unusually amazing in USADA

and brock isnt

 

[Ramon Antonio]

This. Never will I ever bet on a HW fight. It's the SHIT HAPPENS division.

That's exactly what makes it so good for betting. More chance of finding a fight on which the bookies' odds are off.

 

[snackgod]

DC went 0-2 vs roiders

no dc beat mir Barnett, Anderson bigfoot silva so he 4-1-1

 

[Miiiiiiighty]

Isn't one of the principles of betting not taking bet with such odds ?

If cormier is around or below 1.10 ( decimal ) which he should be, it's clearly not worth it imo, especially as it forces you to put a HUGE bet on him to expect any decent profit..
Has Brock 10% chance of upsetting him ? As it is HW MMA, I'd say anything can happen..

I personally don't give Brock more than 5% chance of winning, but I certainly wouldn't bet the house on it as it is just not valuable enough.
On the other hand around 1.20+ odd would be another story, but I doubt we reach it, wouldn't be surprised if the odds for a DC win are around 1.06 unless the Lesnar cohort bets massivley on him which would be a good deal for us..
Also the value bet on Lesnar is obvioulsy a round 1 stoppage, which should have interesting odds for those who want to bet on him..


Or a much better bet which I would have bet on if I could ( no mma betting here ) was DC over Stipe ( especially if you could see a stoppage, or better a round 1 stoppage )..
Odds must have been superb

 

[bob]

Cain and DC are different on fundamental approaches and levels

DC is all about closing distance, getting a single collar tie, and dirty boxing in the clinch with his free hand



DC rarely even shoots a TD. Rarely even kicks. Rarely even throws combinations.

The only thing DC does with any kind of regularity is jab (and jab to close distance - in order to clinch up)


Cain is all about punch kick combinations. Cain puts on a much greater pace and output, throws combinations, will mix it up better in the striking.

Cain is much more likely to shoot and pursue takedowns.

Cain more prefers to work up against the fence where he loves to smoother opponents and dictate.

DC even has more bad habits to exploit and weaknesses then Cain does.


DC is jumpy to fients. Jumpy to the body. Always leans in and ducks to his right

A legit striker would eat DC alive for his habits

-jab left hook.

-Fient to draw out the slip from DC, then uppercut or knee as DC ducks into it

-Change up the speed of your jabs to disrupt his slips and time the 1-2

-Fient out the slip from DC, then time him as he comes back up from the slip, and meet him from his come up with a strike

Etc

Where as Cain's only glarring weakness was that in the past he would close distance irresponsibly and sometimes walk into some big timed shots from other strikers.

However If you watch the Travis Browne fight, Cain has finally gotten rid of that weakness and now covers distance responsibly behind jab work/fients/pre-emptive head movement etc


The only things DC and Cain have in common is their aggressive mindset, clinch work, and gameplanning similarities

Oh and both Cain and DC share one big weakness too. Both are susceptible to knees in the clinch.

DC almost got KOd in the clinch with knees by Gus. And Cain got wrecked by Werdum in the clinch with knees. Both Cain and DC are absolutely terrible at defending clinch knees from taller opponents etc

Cain and DC mostly have entirely different strengths.

Mostly different flaws

And it takes completely different tactics to beat Cain vs what it takes to beat DC

DC is a rightfully a huge favorite over Lesnar, but DC won't be able to beat Lesnar the same way Cain did.

Cain and DC are different. Everyone at AKA has said that Cain is the bigger better fighter over DC.

I imagine it's going to be a lot easier for Lesnar to take down DC then Cain...Because in MMA DC's mindset is focused much more on standing up and clinch fighting(dirty boxing)

Or maybe DC focuses on his wrestling more for Lesnar

Also Lesnar has an incredible reach. If Lesnar actually utilizes his jab and mixes it up with fients, he could actually cause some serious havoc on DC in the stand up. DC is the much shorter fighter and shorter armed fighter. DC's tendency to sit and jab would not work well for him getting into a jabbing contest with the much longer armed Lesnar.

People forget that Lesnar beat Mark hunt in the stand up with his jab alone.

Lesnar has great potential and he's learned a lot in a short amount of time

Who knows how much more Lesnar can still improve.

I honestly don't think Lesnar vs DC is the blowout everyone thinks it is.

And even if DC beats Lesnar, I don't think DC is going to beat Lesnar anywhere near as easily as Cain did

nonsense

 

[UL]

brock got destroyed last night

his chin and recovery has totally gone but it's still enough to beat DC

 

[cheesus]

No HW fight is worth betting the house on

 

[hearthstone25]

Brock is 40. Brock has done a 1000 WWE shows. They might be fake, but they still break your body down. Roids help to keep it all going.

But take the roids away from a 40 year old that has busted his body up for years...... Make him face a guy pretty close in size, that is a BETTER real wrestler, with far better striking, and a far better chin, and a far better sub game, a smarter fighter, and a guy with a game plan.

Sure Brock looks great, but DC dumped Josh on his head like he was a child. You really think DC couldn't dump Brock?

Cormier close to his size?.......

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

[PROlogic]

nonsense

Care to explain why?

Just because you are ignorant about fighting, that doesn't mean you can call my post nonsense when I'm simply breaking everything down.

How about actually being willing to learn, Instead of further digging your hole in the sand of ignorance?

 

[Miiiiiiighty]

Cain and DC are different on fundamental approaches and levels

DC is all about closing distance, getting a single collar tie, and dirty boxing in the clinch with his free hand



DC rarely even shoots a TD. Rarely even kicks. Rarely even throws combinations.

The only thing DC does with any kind of regularity is jab (and jab to close distance - in order to clinch up)


Cain is all about punch kick combinations. Cain puts on a much greater pace and output, throws combinations, will mix it up better in the striking.

Cain is much more likely to shoot and pursue takedowns.

Cain more prefers to work up against the fence where he loves to smoother opponents and dictate.

DC even has more bad habits to exploit and weaknesses then Cain does.


DC is jumpy to fients. Jumpy to the body. Always leans in and ducks to his right

A legit striker would eat DC alive for his habits

-jab left hook.

-Fient to draw out the slip from DC, then uppercut or knee as DC ducks into it

-Change up the speed of your jabs to disrupt his slips and time the 1-2

-Fient out the slip from DC, then time him as he comes back up from the slip, and meet him from his come up with a strike

Etc

Where as Cain's only glarring weakness was that in the past he would close distance irresponsibly and sometimes walk into some big timed shots from other strikers.

However If you watch the Travis Browne fight, Cain has finally gotten rid of that weakness and now covers distance responsibly behind jab work/fients/pre-emptive head movement etc


The only things DC and Cain have in common is their aggressive mindset, clinch work, and gameplanning similarities

Oh and both Cain and DC share one big weakness too. Both are susceptible to knees in the clinch.

DC almost got KOd in the clinch with knees by Gus. And Cain got wrecked by Werdum in the clinch with knees. Both Cain and DC are absolutely terrible at defending clinch knees from taller opponents etc

Cain and DC mostly have entirely different strengths.

Mostly different flaws

And it takes completely different tactics to beat Cain vs what it takes to beat DC

DC is a rightfully a huge favorite over Lesnar, but DC won't be able to beat Lesnar the same way Cain did.

Cain and DC are different. Everyone at AKA has said that Cain is the bigger better fighter over DC.

I imagine it's going to be a lot easier for Lesnar to take down DC then Cain...Because in MMA DC's mindset is focused much more on standing up and clinch fighting(dirty boxing)

Or maybe DC focuses on his wrestling more for Lesnar

Also Lesnar has an incredible reach. If Lesnar actually utilizes his jab and mixes it up with fients, he could actually cause some serious havoc on DC in the stand up. DC is the much shorter fighter and shorter armed fighter. DC's tendency to sit and jab would not work well for him getting into a jabbing contest with the much longer armed Lesnar.

People forget that Lesnar beat Mark hunt in the stand up with his jab alone.

Lesnar has great potential and he's learned a lot in a short amount of time

Who knows how much more Lesnar can still improve.

I honestly don't think Lesnar vs DC is the blowout everyone thinks it is.

And even if DC beats Lesnar, I don't think DC is going to beat Lesnar anywhere near as easily as Cain did

What a superb analysis .. Jack Slack would be proud !

 

[Mbmmax]

Did you see how Brock pushed DC, then how DC pushed Brock?

Size Matters

I love you DC

I don't know that Cain was much stronger than DC is now, and we saw how that turned out for Brock.

 

[Miiiiiiighty]

I tried to get a loan for 20k to put down on that fight. Didnt approve, had to settle for all my savings. Still good

LOL , this would have been glorious, had it been approved !

By the way, I don't know how but the latest odds for this fight were around -400..
People who made powerbets on a May stoppage must have made the bank...

 

[Ryanr1987]

Better payout might be that the fight gets USADA’d. Brock hasn’t competed clean since high school.

Don’t know where some of you get this crap from. Sirecil lbite proof brock was on steroids since high school. Also brock was a lot softer on his first UFC run. Sure in WWE he was certainly on stuff.

 

[MPD-Psycho]

Never bet the house on anything unless you have a plan B.