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I don't think he gets enough respect because of his losses to Jones. In Strikeforce people used to call him "The Black Fedor". He dominated at HW and was undefeated and became the Strikeforce HW champ. He was also undefeated at HW in the UFC and has beat everyone except Jones, one of which was ruled a NC. The guy is a beast. Where would you rank him in the GOAT list? I think he is top 5.

Notable wins:
HW: Big Foot, Barnett, Mir, Nelson
LHW: Hendo, Rumble 2x, Gus, Silva

The guy has done what very few are willing to do. Smaller guy that always fights bigger opponents and is dominant. Thoughts?
 
Everyone thinks he's an exceptional fighter.
 
He's a top 10 goat's for sure.

still dislike the guy tho
 
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Say what you want but those two losses to Jones are still looming. Incredible career an all time great either way.
 
Not an all time great heavyweight but might be the best LHW ever
 
He's boring imo not Fitch boring but the stick to you like glue strategy ruins a good fight

Sherdoggers who believe he's the best LHW all time are the biggest idiots
 
DC is shorter than his opponents, he is certainly not smaller than them. I don't know how an MMA enthusiast forum still can't comprehend the basic idea that height=/=weight. Cormier is bigger than Jones and most if not all of the opponents he faced at 205 and some at HW as well. Max Holloway is the same height as DC, he is certainly nowhere near the same size as him.

If DC wasn't he wouldn't have the history of kidney failure from huge, debilitating weight cuts that he does.
 

Yeah ? And ? It doesn't erase what he has done and all his achievements in both Wrestling and MMA, and I am not even talking about the fact that he fights at the highest level at 38 years old while Jones is just happy to fuck years and years doing stupid shit ...
 
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I don't think he gets enough respect because of his losses to Jones. In Strikeforce people used to call him "The Black Fedor". He dominated at HW and was undefeated and became the Strikeforce HW champ. He was also undefeated at HW in the UFC and has beat everyone except Jones, one of which was ruled a NC. The guy is a beast. Where would you rank him in the GOAT list? I think he is top 5.

Notable wins:
HW: Big Foot, Barnett, Mir, Nelson
LHW: Hendo, Rumble 2x, Gus, Silva

The guy has done what very few are willing to do. Smaller guy that always fights bigger opponents and is dominant. Thoughts?

Everybody likes him, he is one of the best there. Though, he got defeated twice by (cheating) Jones and he didnt fight Cain, Werdum, Overeem, Stipe at HW. Maybe you are talking about this
 
I'd love to know what the alternate reality would have been if he'd carried on at HW (taking Cain out of the equation obviously)
 
"one of the best" ever...way to go out on a limb there
 
IMO he is top-10 all-time maybe (10-12 places in my rankings) and top-3 LHW career (after Jones and Liddell). And he has second best prime in LHW (after Jones).
 
People respect him on Sherdog.
He's only losses are to Jones.

He should go back up to HW and try to get that title.
Now that would be some GOAT shit.

But other than that, no, he's not top 5.
 
(except for Jones)
Jones is a performance enhancing drug cheat, I don't regard him highly

Of course I look at him as a much more talented and skilled fighter than Vitor, but he's on the same island of misfit toys, ineligible for all time discussions.

In my opinion, anyway
 
Jones is a performance enhancing drug cheat, I don't regard him highly

Of course I look at him as a much more talented and skilled fighter than Vitor, but he's on the same island of misfit toys, ineligible for all time discussions.

In my opinion, anyway

It's fair enough to disregard all convicted cheaters, but I'm at a point where I have to take into consideration that they're probably all cheating, and I think DC has as well. So, it's not that I wouldn't give him the benefit of doubt - but when talking "all time greats" I find it difficult to leave someone out just cause he got caught.
 
I don't think he gets enough respect because of his losses to Jones. In Strikeforce people used to call him "The Black Fedor". He dominated at HW and was undefeated and became the Strikeforce HW champ. He was also undefeated at HW in the UFC and has beat everyone except Jones, one of which was ruled a NC. The guy is a beast. Where would you rank him in the GOAT list? I think he is top 5.

Notable wins:
HW: Big Foot, Barnett, Mir, Nelson
LHW: Hendo, Rumble 2x, Gus, Silva

The guy has done what very few are willing to do. Smaller guy that always fights bigger opponents and is dominant. Thoughts?


His first loss to Jones was suspect as well.
Victor Conte was calling Jones out for cheating based on his test results leading up to UFC 182.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Vi...Levels-Before-UFC-182-Highly-Suspicious-80631
 
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