DC Doesn't Deserve to Wait For a Title Shot

DC was Strikeforce HWGP CHAMPION.
I know that.

Which means what? He won a tournament in Strikeforce. A tournament for the "HW title" where the champion pulls out of the tournament. Did the HW championship change hands without involving the HW champion? What is this, WWE?

DC winning the HIP title isn't the same as Shields who held the MW or Edgar holding the UFC LW title.

Bottom line, DC can't expect to get a title shot of the reputation (which isn't much) he imposed in another division. If that's the case, plenty of fighters would cut to smaller divisions and go up (or vice versa) to insure a title shot. It doesn't work that way buddy.
 
Dana wants Jones to beat Gus and then move up and fight the winner of Cain/Werdum on Super Bowl Weekend.
 
I have no fucking idea why some people want to disregard his record in a heavier weight class. Is there any legitimate line of reasoning behind it? The same guy who crushed Bigfoot and Barnett is a LHW now, with around the same amount of muscle as he had when he did that. How is he not a top contender to some people?
 
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look at his fucking resume, the man deserves his title shot.
 
Hey gang,

DC is claiming that he will wait for a shot against Jones, but objectively there is NO WAY to see this as fair. He has only won two fights at LHW and neither was against a top 5 guy. Of course, he has a very impressive resume going back to his HW days, but that doesn't give him the leeway to sit back and wait for a shot. He needs to beat a top guy in the prime of his career (Teixeira or Rashad are my candidates), then he will have earned the right to wait for a shot.

To be clear, I would have no problem with Cormier getting a shot right now. However, because there is another obvious #1 contender, and other top LHWs with longer unbeaten streaks, logic dictates that Cormier should fight once more before his big shot. People should only wait for a shot if they have cleared out other contenders or they have been promised one. Cormier isn't in that situation.

Sorry about the "1"...


On topic: Even though kinda I agree with you, DC is the only interesting contender in the LHW div right now (aside from Gus obviously). Matching him up vs someone else before that fight is just not worth the risk of possibly losing him as a #1 contender imo.
 
TS, Please name some guys that are more deserving than DC. Hell please name some guys that DC can't man handle in the same way that he just did to Hendo.
 
Mmm he the only one deserve next, there really is no body deserves it right now. The only two that did was Davis and hendo they lost the shot at the tilte. So dc deserves it over rumble.
 
Its funny how people are now on huge on the top 5 wins being a big factor in getting a title shot:

Here are the last 7 (plus the anticipated Gus upcoming shot) contenders streaks:

Rampage: 2 fight win streak, one top 5 win in streak
Machida: 1 fight streak 0 top 10s in streak
Rashad: 4 fight win streak, 2 top 5s and a top 10 during streak:
Vitor: (fill in fight), 2 fight MW streak
Chael: 1 fight losing streak
Gus: 6 fight winning streak, one fringe top 5 win
glover
Glover: 20 fight winning streak 2 top 10s
Gus: 1 fight winning streak, 0 top 10s
 
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DC said in the post fight press conference that if the UFC comes up with a good fight he will do it. He said he will fight any of them.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if the UFC still have burnt hands from Jones/Hendo falling though and are happy to have DC sit out for a title shot if it means they have a stand in for Jones/Gus(could be for an interim belt if its Jones). This is after all a tentpole event for them over the late summer/autumn and cancelling it would likely hurt even more than UFC 151.

Indeed I wouldn't be supprized if this is actually why Cormier/Hendo was pushed forward to give time for the winner to be ready.
 
If Rashads not going to fight DC, and with Anthony being a top contender as well, I think it's time to make the drop to 185.
 
I agree, I dont think Cormier has done enough yet to deserve a title shot. have him fight someone else in the top 10 before he gets a shot
 
Glover had no business getting the last title shot and he did. Cormier deserves it more.

Just re-read your post and think about how utterly ridiculous it was.
 
I know that.

Which means what? He won a tournament in Strikeforce. A tournament for the "HW title" where the champion pulls out of the tournament. Did the HW championship change hands without involving the HW champion? What is this, WWE?.

Actually the UFC specialises in this. :icon_chee
 
His wins at HW count, they just do. He's a top guy who has beaten other top guys.
 
15-0. Just choked Hendo unconscious after tossing him around for 3 rounds.
That guy might be the best fighter in MMA right now.

DC should be permitted to do whatever he wants.
Fuck it, Jon Jones might as well just mail him the belt and retire. :icon_chee

So what about Vitor then? He finished Dan in 1 minute
 
I really like Gus but I don't agree with this at all.

You shouldn't get early rematches because you're a tough fight for the champion; Gus was a difficult test but Jones passed.

Gus should have to earn his way back, which he hasn't done yet.
I agree with you except, he has earned a rematch over Cormier in my opinion. I think Cormier is going to be an excellent competitor for LHW, but he should fight a Top 5 contender before he gets a title match. Rashad deserves a rematch with Jones before Cormier.
 
Hey gang,

DC is claiming that he will wait for a shot against Jones, but objectively there is NO WAY to see this as fair. He has only won two fights at LHW and neither was against a top 5 guy. Of course, he has a very impressive resume going back to his HW days, but that doesn't give him the leeway to sit back and wait for a shot. He needs to beat a top guy in the prime of his career (Teixeira or Rashad are my candidates), then he will have earned the right to wait for a shot.

To be clear, I would have no problem with Cormier getting a shot right now. However, because there is another obvious #1 contender, and other top LHWs with longer unbeaten streaks, logic dictates that Cormier should fight once more before his big shot. People should only wait for a shot if they have cleared out other contenders or they have been promised one. Cormier isn't in that situation.

And who, exactly, does logic dictate that Jones should be fighting after Gus? Or who does logic dicate that DC should fight next? These are the official 205 rankings by the UFC:

1) Alexander Gustafsson (rematching Jones)
2) Daniel Cormier
3) Rashad Evans (2-2 in his last four fights)
4) Glover Teixeira (Just lost in dominating fashion to Jones)
5) Anthony Johnson (has exactly one fight at 205 since returning to the UFC, scheduled to fight little Nog next)
6) Phil Davis (just lost to Rumble)
7) Dan Henderson (just lost to DC)
8) Mauricio Rua (just lost to Henderson)
9) Chael Sonnen (a middleweight who lost his last fight at 205 to Rashad)
10) Ryan Bader (2-2 in his last 4 fights, scheduled to fight Cavalcante next)
11) Jimi Manuwa (just got killed by Gustafsson)
12) Rafael Cavalcante (2 wins in his last 5 fights, scheduled to fight Bader next)
13) Ovince Saint Preux (decent win streak but not against ranked contenders)
14) Vitor Belfort (a middleweight who lost his last fight at 205)
15) James Te Huna (lost his last 2 fights)


So uhh, yeah, tell me exactly what logic dictates here, buddy, because I'm not seeing it. Cormier is on a 15-fight win streak, with a good majority of those wins coming against heavyweights. Unlike most people, I don't hold wins against opponents in higher weight classes against a fighter. It's not like DC lost a bunch of fights and dropped weight. The guy looked damn impressive at heavyweight before dropping to LHW. He's got tons of momentum, and no else in the division has done jack shit to deserve a shot at the belt.

People arguing against DC getting a shot are just Jones nuthuggers who are afraid of the impending doom coming his way.
 
Are you joking?

Glover Teixeira UFC resume
Ryan Bader
Rampage Jackson
James Te Huna
a few other guys

Daniel Cormier UFC resume
Dan Henderson
Pat Cummins
Frank Mir (hw)
Roy Nelson (hw)

Glover was a lifetime LHW that hadn't lost since 2005. Cormier was a HW who is new to the division, and his career only goes back to 2009. The only way to make a case for Cormier is to base it on his accomplishments at HW, which is weak when you're talking about a great LHW division with alot of contenders.

Bull. How many light heavyweights could go up in weight right now and challenge behemoths like Bigfoot? Not many, if any at all, could. Bigfoot would turn nearly everyone at 205 into a greasy shit stain.

DC has a pretty damn impressive record at heavyweight, and it shouldn't be held against him.
 
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