(This is my first ever thread so I will make it great btw this is not hate) Dc is considered by some (casuals) as an ATG with an amazing career but I disagree completely. Let’s look at his crowning achievements in MMA . SFHWGP Winner: wasn’t that good of a tournament and beat no one of significant value. Hw ufc champ: cheated and got a fluke win LHW ufc champ: jones popped, dc was never the best. Now his lackluster resume: Stipe:cheated, fluke win got dominated in the rematch. Gus: almost finished, gus lost to smith LOL Rumble 2X: can’t wrestle and is a gassy brawler, not impressed Hendo and Silva: old and were never good Trt Bigfoot: average win Volkan: average Barnett: never that good Roy nelson: gassy no grappling brawler Mir: meh fighter at his peak, past prime against dc TLDR: dc isn’t that great of a fighter and doesn’t deserve to fight stipe, bad career and jones made him cry.