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Media David Haye: "I truly think Wilder is the hardest punching heavyweight ever "

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  1. cauti0n LMK

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    It's only 2 minutes.

    Says he sparred with Wilder and the power he felt off a glancing shot in 18oz gloves through his headgear was insane. Says Wilder has great punch resistance as well.
     
  2. ConorFacts Banned Banned

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    Wilders chin & godlike recovery (first Ortiz fight) are super underrated.

    Even if you block his punch (first ortiz fight) Wilder can still knock you the fuck out.

    A MMA fighter said that he never felt that much power (20 oz gloves)
     
  3. purpleheart Purple Belt

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    He hits like a truck for sure. Clumsy clumsy and uncoordinated though. Haye didnt have much trouble sparring him.



    Bet prime Haye would have murked him. Same goes for Wlad. Hope Fury puts his foot down as promised and gets the ko or gets brought out on a stretcher.

    If the latter happens get AJ in there and give him his chance to be undisputed.
     
  4. Rob-G Purple Belt

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    I believe it. Wilder’s power is pretty dang terrifying. At the very least, he’s gotta be in the Top 5. Foreman, Shavers, Liston, Wilder, they gotta be in the same neighborhood
     
  5. Roids Brown Belt

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    just the latest band wagon. people get aboard so easily its amusing. Imagine a prime tyson today almost upper cutting heads off.
     
  6. cauti0n LMK

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    Yes, someone who actually sparred with him is just a bandwagoner.
     
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    I can believe Wilder in among the greatest, if not THE greatest, power punchers ever but i don't buy that he has a great chin.

    He's a 6'7" guy with long arms, speed, tremendous power and great reflexes.

    All of which make him hard to catch with clean power shots for most opponents. The few times he's been hit with a clean bomb he's been put on roller skates, but again, his dimensions and athleticism make it hard for guys to catch him with clean follow up shots.

    While i don't think Fury is a knock out threat, mainly because of his defensive approach, i do think he has the power to hurt Wilder if he sits on a shot, which i think he has to do in their rematch if for no other reason than to get Deontay's respect.
    And i think Joshua has all the tools to turn Deontay's lights off, should they ever fight, though i would still favor Wilder due to height, reach, speed.
     
  8. cauti0n LMK

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    I mean, Ortiz is better than Joshua imo, was hitting him clean consistently in that 7th round of the first fight and Wilder instantly recovered. Haye pointed it out but there's a difference between chin and recovery. He said he dazed Wilder but he recovered quick.
     
  9. aries Gold Belt

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    Really? What is that based on? Ortiz has fought literally nobody decent apart from losing to Wilder. Joshua, on the other hand, has beaten Klitschko, Whyte, Parker, Povetkin and Ruiz.
     
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    Ortiz is only better than Joshua according to the eye test. That is, Ortiz looks to be the better boxer. And i do think he's more skilled than Joshua.

    But the thing is, Joshua is younger and fresher than Ortiz, has shown better recuperative powers, and has shown a better ability to make adjustments in the ring, despite being less skilled (which is weird).

    For all his skill, Ortiz is a much more tactically rigid fighter than Joshua. Suffice to say, i was very disappointed with his approach in the second Wilder fight.

    And then as Aries pointed out - there's the little fact that Joshua's resume is significantly better than Ortiz'
     
  11. ConorFacts Banned Banned

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    Oritz would KO Joshuas head to his ass.
     
  12. Right Hook nut shot Brown Belt

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    Wilder is the hardest puncher history even more then Tyson. He has also been inoroving his technique
     
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    Athletes in all sports improve over time, so most likely it's true.
     
  14. cauti0n LMK

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    This is fair, can't really argue with it.
     
  15. SandisLL Brown Belt

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    Ruiz KOed him, AJ just won Ruiz by points.
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    Foreman from 1974 v.s AJ or Wilder, I can imagine. ;)
    Fraizer from 1974 too….
    Further compare with Holmes from 1978-1980 or Tyson from 1987-1989.
    Shavers too….didn't banged hard.
    Bulked version of Holyfield. :)
    Lennox Levis.
    Prime Klitschko.
     
  16. aries Gold Belt

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    Which has what to do with Ortiz being better than AJ? Or do you think that Ortiz would beat all of them? Stop being ridiculous.
     
  17. SandisLL Brown Belt

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    If you aren't blind you should see that I didn't mentioned Ortiz.
     
  18. Minowafanatic Red Belt

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    Based on what? One 8 second highlight clip?

    You might as well post Wilder's knockdown of Fury and say "Wilder didn't have much trouble fighting Fury".
     
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    He hits harder than prime mike tyson.
     
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    Am I seeing this right the wilder fan boys are no claiming Ortiz is better than AJ wow just wow
     

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