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Should all UFC fighters get vaccinated?

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Mohawk Banditó said:
The criticisms for the study still exist. Again, they're not my criticisms. They are expert criticisms and expert contradictory studies that were provided in your article. You have ignored them. I suspect because you don't know how to answer them. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and until you address those criticisms, I don't know how you're supposed to be responded to. Sherdog does not allow me to post in crayon.
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Everything you said, literally every last word, is a complete goal post movement away from what we are arguing about.

You are wrong, and, you stopped even trying to attempt to prove otherwise, instead of apologizing and saying thanks for the data, now you've moved to an entirely new argument, which is: attack the source, discredit the CDC and discredit the Israeli Ministry of Health.

It's your last bastion of hope to save face, it's pathetic, it's transparent, and it's below any reasonable conversation.

You asked for the source on where the 39% figure came from, I provided an expert source that is routinely cited by the CDC as credible. A source that dominated international news for multiple weeks, was reported on by CDC, WHO, Forbes, CNN, Fox News, and every major outlet where people go to find medical journalism.

In attacking the Israeli Ministry of Health, by proxy, you also attack the CDC's credibility, among every other source that also credited them and their data.

There is no question at all if the data is reliable, and no question at all where the CDC gets their information from, which, they ironically post on their own website and take complete ownership of.

You are an embarrassment to the people engaging in real debate and conversation.

Here are even more links to people reporting the news, and, outlets I haven't even mentioned yet:

Delta variant: Pfizer Covid vaccine 39% effective in Israel, prevents severe illness (cnbc.com)

Pfizer shot 39% effective against infection in Israel; 91% effective against severe disease (beckershospitalreview.com)

Pfizer Shot Just 39% Effective Against Delta Infection, But Largely Prevents Severe Illness, Israel Study Suggests (forbes.com)

Pfizer Shot Halts Severe Illness, Allows Infection in Israel - Bloomberg

Pfizer shot seen 39% effective against delta in Israel (arkansasonline.com)

Israeli Data Suggests Possible Waning in Effectiveness of Pfizer Vaccine - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Pfizer Covid-19 Vaccine Is Less Effective Against Delta Infections but Still Prevents Serious Illness, Israel Study Suggests - WSJ

Is the Pfizer vaccine now just 39% effective? What new research from Israel reveals (and doesn't). (advisory.com)

Pfizer Covid-19 Vaccine Only 39% Effective Against Delta Variant, Claims Israel Study (cnbctv18.com)

Israel: Pfizer vaccine allows infection but prevents severe illness | TheHill

Pfizer vaccine only 39% effective at preventing Delta variant infection, says Israel govt (republicworld.com)

Pfizer vaccine 39% effective against Delta variant, NFL COVID outbreaks, Kanye West debuts new 'Donda' album (yahoo.com)

The Day - Israel study: Pfizer shot just 39% effective in halting delta - News from southeastern Connecticut

Israel sees drop in Pfizer vaccine protection against infections | Reuters

Israeli study says the Pfizer vaccine is losing effectiveness. But some experts think it's a fluke | Salon.com

Israel says Pfizer vaccine effectiveness down to 39 pct amid spread of Delta variant - Xinhua | English.news.cn (xinhuanet.com)

Is Israel or UK right about COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness? - The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com)

Pfizer's Covid-19 jab is just 39% effective in halting Delta variant: Israel (livemint.com)

And this is all from 2 seconds of googling.

BUT... Don't listen to them! They are all lying, instead, let's listen to this dumb fuck Mohawk Bandito on Sherdog!

Class dismissed.

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Mohawk Banditó said:
CDC takes account of any and all research.
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Sorry, I actually missed this part.

You really think anyone can contribute to the CDC's data and citations? That the CDC takes "any and all" research and calls it a day? Holy. Fucking. Shit.

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Mohawk Banditó said:
Address the expert criticisms you ignored, or don't reply.
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Now, because you like to have completely unrelated arguments that are filled to the brim with bullshit, I'm going to do the same to you (minus the bullshit).

Answer this criticism, lab rat:

Worried about Covid? Ironically, the worry is more dangerous than Covid. It can lead to heart disease and digestive issues, which, have a much higher chance of killing you.

Look at the data for mortality in this country:

Heart disease is 1 in 6.

Cancer is 1 in 7.

Chronic lower respiratory disease is 1 in 27.

Falling down is around 1 in 100.

Dying in a car crash is around 1 in 100.

et cetera, et cetera.

Covid, which has a 99.8% survival rate (depending on your age), has low estimates of 1 in 2000 (at the extremely low end, and only if you are above 80+ years old with various underlying conditions), and high estimates of 1 in 50,000 for people below 60. The reality is, people between the ages of 1-50 have a 0.008% of dying from Covid. Literally lower than almost every single thing you do a daily basis. Eat fast food? Kills you more than Covid. Drive a car? Kills you more than Covid. Sit around at your desk too much? Kills you more than Covid. Walking down stairs? Kills you more than Covid. Go swimming? Kills you more than Covid. Stung by a bee? Kills you more than Covid.

Sources below:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/verify/verify-covid-19-survivability-rate/275-a4cda9a3-4a33-49f2-8977-6d2b5265d8a8

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/preventable-death-overview/odds-of-dying/

But, as we dig deeper, what do we find? Thanks to the vaccinated people (yay!), herd immunity, and people who've already built up their immune systems, now the real numbers now look like this:

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/covid-19-cases-in-the-united-states/

0 out of 100,000 people dying from Covid in Seattle.

0.1 out of 100,000 death ratio in California, etc.

Your chances, literally, of being eaten by a rabid dog are higher than dying from the magic virus.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/10/06/what-is-your-risk-of-dying-from-covid-19/?sh=5b80da256159
 
But has zero problem telling them exactly what clothing to wear and taking money out of their families bank accounts to fill his.

Dana will always be a wretched inflated steroidail grape who is neck and neck with the worst politicians for title of empowered and liked scumlords.
 
Glass Heart said:
Now, because you like to have completely unrelated arguments that are filled to the brim with bullshit, I'm going to do the same to you (minus the bullshit).

Answer this criticism, lab rat:

Worried about Covid? Ironically, the worry is more dangerous than Covid. It can lead to heart disease and digestive issues, which, have a much higher chance of killing you.

Look at the data for mortality in this country:

Heart disease is 1 in 6.

Cancer is 1 in 7.

Chronic lower respiratory disease is 1 in 27.

Falling down is around 1 in 100.

Dying in a car crash is around 1 in 100.

et cetera, et cetera.

Covid, which has a 99.8% survival rate (depending on your age), has low estimates of 1 in 2000 (at the extremely low end, and only if you are above 80+ years old with various underlying conditions), and high estimates of 1 in 50,000 for people below 60. The reality is, people between the ages of 1-50 have a 0.008% of dying from Covid. Literally lower than almost every single thing you do a daily basis. Eat fast food? Kills you more than Covid. Drive a car? Kills you more than Covid. Sit around at your desk too much? Kills you more than Covid. Walking down stairs? Kills you more than Covid. Go swimming? Kills you more than Covid. Stung by a bee? Kills you more than Covid.

Sources below:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/verify/verify-covid-19-survivability-rate/275-a4cda9a3-4a33-49f2-8977-6d2b5265d8a8

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/preventable-death-overview/odds-of-dying/

But, as we dig deeper, what do we find? Thanks to the vaccinated people (yay!), herd immunity, and people who've already built up their immune systems, now the real numbers now look like this:

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/covid-19-cases-in-the-united-states/

0 out of 100,000 people dying from Covid in Seattle.

0.1 out of 100,000 death ratio in California, etc.

Your chances, literally, of being eaten by a rabid dog are higher than dying from the magic virus.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/10/06/what-is-your-risk-of-dying-from-covid-19/?sh=5b80da256159
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I do agree with your point, however, those other risks you mention are life-time risks. COVID would have a much lower lifetime risk regardless, but that 99.8% is a case-fatality rate I suppose.
 
brackis1 said:
But has zero problem telling them exactly what clothing to wear and taking money out of their families bank accounts to fill his.

Dana will always be a wretched inflated steroidail grape who is neck and neck with the worst politicians for title of empowered and liked scumlords.
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But for him it would be easier if fighters were 'forced' to be vaccinated. Much easier to organize events due to regulations etc.

He's not forcing anyone to sign the contracts either. So it doesn't really take away from his opinion on this.
 
Ramon Antonio said:
But for him it would be easier if fighters were 'forced' to be vaccinated. Much easier to organize events due to regulations etc.

He's not forcing anyone to sign the contracts either. So it doesn't really take away from his opinion on this.
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lol Dana forces people to sign shit all the time under the threat of blackball and retribution all the time.
Do you prefer the taste of brown or night-black leather? Or maybe creme?
 
brackis1 said:
lol Dana forces people to sign shit all the time under the threat of blackball and retribution all the time.
Do you prefer the taste of brown or night-black leather? Or maybe creme?
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That’s business. Don’t like the contract? Don’t sign it and go to Bellator instead. Or get a real job.

His forcing is just being a tough negotiator. The government is trying to exclude people from society for not wanting to inject a vaccine. I don’t really see the similarity.
 
Ramon Antonio said:
That’s business. Don’t like the contract? Don’t sign it and go to Bellator instead. Or get a real job.

His forcing is just being a tough negotiator. The government is trying to exclude people from society for not wanting to inject a vaccine. I don’t really see the similarity.
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lol no that's not "business" you imp. Threatening people with blackball or retribution is racketeering.
Was sharecropping "just business"? lol

Do you feel good and accomplished cosplaying as a defender of this dude like it's transitively your throne of power or something?
Weird as fuck bootlicking.
 
brackis1 said:
lol no that's not "business" you imp. Threatening people with blackball or retribution is racketeering.
Was sharecropping "just business"? lol

Do you feel good and accomplished cosplaying as a defender of this dude like it's transitively your throne of power or something?
Weird as fuck bootlicking.
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Still wouldn't be the same as a government forcing someone to inject something.

They can simply choose not go into business with that dude. When did he actually FORCE someone to sign something?
 
Glass Heart said:
Now, because you like to have completely unrelated arguments that are filled to the brim with bullshit, I'm going to do the same to you (minus the bullshit).

Answer this criticism, lab rat:

Worried about Covid? Ironically, the worry is more dangerous than Covid. It can lead to heart disease and digestive issues, which, have a much higher chance of killing you.

Look at the data for mortality in this country:

Heart disease is 1 in 6.

Cancer is 1 in 7.

Chronic lower respiratory disease is 1 in 27.

Falling down is around 1 in 100.

Dying in a car crash is around 1 in 100.

et cetera, et cetera.

Covid, which has a 99.8% survival rate (depending on your age), has low estimates of 1 in 2000 (at the extremely low end, and only if you are above 80+ years old with various underlying conditions), and high estimates of 1 in 50,000 for people below 60. The reality is, people between the ages of 1-50 have a 0.008% of dying from Covid. Literally lower than almost every single thing you do a daily basis. Eat fast food? Kills you more than Covid. Drive a car? Kills you more than Covid. Sit around at your desk too much? Kills you more than Covid. Walking down stairs? Kills you more than Covid. Go swimming? Kills you more than Covid. Stung by a bee? Kills you more than Covid.

Sources below:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/verify/verify-covid-19-survivability-rate/275-a4cda9a3-4a33-49f2-8977-6d2b5265d8a8

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/preventable-death-overview/odds-of-dying/

But, as we dig deeper, what do we find? Thanks to the vaccinated people (yay!), herd immunity, and people who've already built up their immune systems, now the real numbers now look like this:

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/covid-19-cases-in-the-united-states/

0 out of 100,000 people dying from Covid in Seattle.

0.1 out of 100,000 death ratio in California, etc.

Your chances, literally, of being eaten by a rabid dog are higher than dying from the magic virus.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/10/06/what-is-your-risk-of-dying-from-covid-19/?sh=5b80da256159
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Thank you...
 
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