Dana White applauds Liz Carmouche for becoming UFC's first openly gay fighter

RenoBJJr said:
I'm willing to bet my life you have never walked into a gym and have them let you fuck around with a 135 man just to show you the power of grappling skills.

I don't if its a women or male who weighs 135 pounds and knows how to grapple, that bitch would fuck you up.

Hurt your ego?
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Don't mind him. Never has anything positiveto say.
 
RenoBJJr said:
Some of us, not all of us.

At my little sisters HS they found some sick fuck who had a gun ready for tomorrow and a hit list. SMH.
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Fuckin' Reno, man.
At least they found the kid and stopped it, that would be so horrible
 
RenoBJJr said:
Well any sports isn't martial arts. Grappling is just another beast when it comes to fighting. She also probably has far better technique in the stand up as well, which means she will be hard to hit. Yeah if you hit her, it's going to hurt more, but she is used to getting hit.
I'll put money on the girl taking you down before you land that one lucky punch.

Even if you do knock her out, you're about to get jumped about 30 dudes, or if you're unlucky, Roger Huerta.
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I don't really agree....

Ironically, I think most 135lbs girls would be best to avoid the ground with the larger male counterpart. In Liz's case, I'd say stick and move....If she tied up with most guys that'd give them a serious advantage. With me in particular it's where I'd be strongest, I'd know that, I probably have poor striking skills compared to them and they should exploit that.

If a trained 135lbs female went out and fought "most men" on the ground I suspect It'd look something like Mir / Lesnar 2, a very anti climatic and awkward beating.

I don't think most people have an understanding of training or even fighting, the first thing you learn in the gym is to respect every guy that comes through your door, and yes, even females. Even your average, untrained, not in the best shape Joe can come in and if he hits you in the right spot you're taking a nap. Training is amazing, yes, but it doesn't provide the entire framework for the killer skill set. Many men have it naturally, and many guys can go into a gym and dominate someone who's far beyond them in training due to simply having the superior physical genetics.

If I was untrained, never worked in gyms and had no sparring experience perhaps I'd be more inclined to agree that Liz would in fact go out and kill most men on earth 1v1, but, I just don't buy it. I've seen many relatively untrained guys who would have to go easy on a girl in practice even if she'd been there for years ahead of them, I've seen it first hand and it's just how it is. Men are naturally stronger, bigger and are far more aggressive in suite.
 
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This goes to show you that being gay is a big deal, because it's being made to such a big deal. Dana is using this shamelessly to PR.
 
Phoenix Down said:
I don't really agree....

Ironically, I think most 135lbs girls would be best to avoid the ground with the larger male counterpart. In Liz's case, I'd say stick and move....If she tied up with most guys that'd give them a serious advantage. With me in particular it's where I'd be strongest, I'd know that, I probably have poor striking skills compared to them and they should exploit that.

If a trained 135lbs female went out and fought "most men" on the ground I suspect It'd look something like Mir / Lesnar 2, a very anti climatic and awkward beating.

I don't think most people have an understanding of training or even fighting, the first thing you learn in the gym is to respect every guy that comes through your door, and yes, even females. Even your average, untrained, not in the best shape Joe can come in and if he hits you in the right spot you're taking a nap. Training is amazing, yes, but it doesn't provide the entire framework for the killer skill set. Many men have it naturally, and many guys can go into a gym and dominate someone who's far beyond them in training due to simply having the superior physical genetics.

If I was untrained, never worked in gyms and had no sparring experience perhaps I'd be more inclined to agree that Liz would in fact go out and kill most men on earth 1v1, but, I just don't buy it. I've seen many relatively untrained guys who would have to go easy on a girl in practice even if she'd been there for years ahead of them, I've seen it first hand and it's just how it is. Men are naturally stronger, bigger and are far more aggressive in suite.
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To make a serious post about this, i'm kind in the middle.

Boy and girl muscle work different, and a street fight is always a weird anomaly.
If i were to put the money a 150lb guy vs a moderately trained 135lb woman, i'd be hard pressed to really think it out.
 
Phoenix Down said:
That woman (gay or not) couldn't walk into your average bar without finding at least a hand full of guys who'd maul her into an unrecognizable shark attack.

The whole idea that these little 135lbs girls can just toss most men around is fucking hilarious. You guys are delusional and need to get out of your moms basement on a more regular basis.
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Most people, men and women, have no idea how to fight. A high level female fighter would paste some idiot jock who couldn't punch his way out of a wet paper bag.
 
FlyThai said:
That's a cop out homie! :)
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I wasnt being serious, but i really dont know, i havent hit a max in a while.
Next time i go with a friend, i'll get an accurate number for you and report my findings in a visitor message.
 
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