DANA DIDN'T WANT THAT FIGHT

[changospank]

UFC 200 or not Dana could not gamble on his boy losing again on one of the biggest shows in their History. so Conor doesn't fight at 200? every opponent is taken. Aldo and Frankie will take damage Nate might take that Lawler fight and take massive damage. while Conor gets his Cardio up, trains a choke or leg lock for hours at a time and hey guess what someone gets injured and Conor magically wants a fight. he looks great against Diaz or whoever and he's back. hey what about Frankie? yeah he has a hernia or some shit and boom he beats Frankie. or all of this is real and now Dana really doesn't want to give Conor more money. what next? he puts Conor on a shelf for a bit. doesn't give him the big fights, doesn't give him MSG. and feeds him to RDA, Alvarez, Frankie or Aldo or even Nick or Nate Diaz. and i say "feed" because I am trying to be insulting but by no means is Conor an easy fight but he can stack a fight Against Conor just like he stacked the game in his favor. all this just to teach his ass a lesson. Dana is from Boston you don't bite the hand that feeds you and you don't do favors for free. all this is gonna cost Conor or it's all a game and we got honeydicked once again.

 

[RafaelDosSantos]

Yeah I have a feeling they're saving him for later, for a bigger show or beatable opponent. UFC 200 = let's get rid of all potential roadblocks

 

[DontWaitUp]

UFC 200 or not Dana could not gamble on his boy losing again on one of the biggest shows in their History. so Conor doesn't fight at 200? every opponent is taken. Aldo and Frankie will take damage Nate might take that Lawler fight and take massive damage. while Conor gets his Cardio up, trains a choke or leg lock for hours at a time and hey guess what someone gets injured and Conor magically wants a fight. he looks great against Diaz or whoever and he's back. hey what about Frankie? yeah he has a hernia or some shit and boom he beats Frankie. or all of this is real and now Dana really doesn't want to give Conor more money. what next? he puts Conor on a shelf for a bit. doesn't give him the big fights, doesn't give him MSG. and feeds him to RDA, Alvarez, Frankie or Aldo or even Nick or Nate Diaz. and i say "feed" because I am trying to be insulting but by no means is Conor an easy fight but he can stack a fight Against Conor just like he stacked the game in his favor. all this just to teach his ass a lesson. Dana is from Boston you don't bite the hand that feeds you and you don't do favors for free. all this is gonna cost Conor or it's all a game and we got honeydicked once again.

Conor breaking legal contractual agreements, now equals Dana is to blame. On top of which, you decided to create out of thin air, a few more nefarious improprieties that Dana is culpable of. The crap you Mcgregor apologist come up with is brilliant.

 

[changospank]

Conor breaking legal contractual agreements, now equals Dana is to blame. On top of which, you decided to create out of thin air, a few more nefarious improprieties that Dana is culpable of. The crap you Mcgregor apologist come up with is brilliant.

haha what? how do you get that? what i meant was Dana and the UFC can salvage the Diaz fight but might no want to. it's either to save Conor from a beating or to teach him a lesson. either way i make no apologies especially not for Conor. you folks just come out of nowhere with this shit.

 

[soulsstealer]

Conor breaking legal contractual agreements, now equals Dana is to blame. On top of which, you decided to create out of thin air, a few more nefarious improprieties that Dana is culpable of. The crap you Mcgregor apologist come up with is brilliant.

This whole argument of you signed the paper so we can do whatever is wrong. It makes legal sense but its not right.

 

[DontWaitUp]

.....either way i make no apologies especially not for Conor.

Then we're in agreement and I misread your post.

 

[changospank]

This whole argument of you signed the paper so we can do whatever is wrong. It makes legal sense but its not right.

legal trumps right... you bought the ticket now take the ride. don't sign if you don't plan to follow whats on the page. he rushed this deal to fight on his terms, his date, his weight class, his opponent, his pay. like a big baby throwing a tantrum you just ignore him until he calms down but you do not give him what he wants.

 

[DontWaitUp]

It makes legal sense but its not right.

Then why did he sign it? This isn't rocket science. And what's this tommyrot 'whatever they want'? Who the hell said that? If he's pulled from the card, it would have been stipulated on the freaking contract. He literally AGREED to being pulled from the card, otherwise he'd have legal recourse.

 

[blazerkor]

UFC 200 or not Dana could not gamble on his boy losing again on one of the biggest shows in their History. so Conor doesn't fight at 200? every opponent is taken. Aldo and Frankie will take damage Nate might take that Lawler fight and take massive damage. while Conor gets his Cardio up, trains a choke or leg lock for hours at a time and hey guess what someone gets injured and Conor magically wants a fight. he looks great against Diaz or whoever and he's back. hey what about Frankie? yeah he has a hernia or some shit and boom he beats Frankie. or all of this is real and now Dana really doesn't want to give Conor more money. what next? he puts Conor on a shelf for a bit. doesn't give him the big fights, doesn't give him MSG. and feeds him to RDA, Alvarez, Frankie or Aldo or even Nick or Nate Diaz. and i say "feed" because I am trying to be insulting but by no means is Conor an easy fight but he can stack a fight Against Conor just like he stacked the game in his favor. all this just to teach his ass a lesson. Dana is from Boston you don't bite the hand that feeds you and you don't do favors for free. all this is gonna cost Conor or it's all a game and we got honeydicked once again.

Him looking great against Diaz is not reality. Conor can't do in six months of taking BJJ seriously in what Nate has done, half of his life and lets not forget that Nate actually won the fight through stand up.

 

[changospank]

Him looking great against Diaz is not reality. Conor can't do in six months of taking BJJ seriously in what Nate has done, half of his life and lets not forget that Nate actually won the fight through stand up.

see that statement in itself is just crazy. I'm not a Conor fan but saying he can't drill just one devastating move for hours on end and getting just one set of moves down to blue belt level is impossible is crazy. maybe a vicious leg lock or a tight choke and maybe just maybe he can sub Nate after leg kicking him and hitting the body for a few rounds, softening him up a bit and then going to his one refined set up and execution. it is possible anything is possible in this sport.

and Nate was getting hit and getting hurt in the first and second round just that Conor could not stand up to Nates attacks. but Conor was in the fight, throwing punches and kicks up until the end. much respect to the man in the cage but his antics outside the cage are childish.

 

[ineverpost]

It makes 0 sense to have this fight. 145 lb champ steps up and loses, fine. Now he's acting like he will just fight Nate over and over again until he wins.

 

[zerofux]

This whole argument of you signed the paper so we can do whatever is wrong. It makes legal sense but its not right.

It doesn't even make legal sense and none of these geniuses know anything about his contract. A reporter asked Dana point blank if Conor was in breach of contract and Dana didn't even want to dignify it with an answer. You can tell who on these boards has dealt with contracts and who hasn't. It's not like once you sign a contract you become property of the UFC.

 

[changospank]

It makes 0 sense to have this fight. 145 lb champ steps up and loses, fine. Now he's acting like he will just fight Nate over and over again until he wins.

you can look at Dana and you can tell he is genuinely cool with Conor not fighting and especially not giving Nate a big payday. like i said Conor rushed this deal then came to his senses. the UFC looks fair to the fighters, keeps Conor training and healthy and Conor doesn't risk getting his ass kicked again.

 

[changospank]

It doesn't even make legal sense and none of these geniuses know anything about his contract. A reporter asked Dana point blank if Conor was in breach of contract and Dana didn't even want to dignify it with an answer. You can tell who on these boards has dealt with contracts and who hasn't. It's not like once you sign a contract you become property of the UFC.

really? we all saw that and we did not see a Dana disgusted with that question. i saw a Dana not willing to "even go there" to even entertain taking legal action against Conor but technically there is a breach of contract if he agreed to ALL press and interviews. now if this press conference was added and he only VERBALLY agreed through the phone under stress maybe jet lag or whatever then it might not fall under the breach. Conor is still willing to fight that puts it on the UFC to give him a fight or not. not Conor refusing to fight. we go on and on but at the end. Conor failed to complete a requirement on his Contract. and your last sentence... hahahah oh little dove you're are sweet.

 

[blazerkor]

see that statement in itself is just crazy. I'm not a Conor fan but saying he can't drill just one devastating move for hours on end and getting just one set of moves down to blue belt level is impossible is crazy. maybe a vicious leg lock or a tight choke and maybe just maybe he can sub Nate after leg kicking him and hitting the body for a few rounds, softening him up a bit and then going to his one refined set up and execution. it is possible anything is possible in this sport.

and Nate was getting hit and getting hurt in the first and second round just that Conor could not stand up to Nates attacks. but Conor was in the fight, throwing punches and kicks up until the end. much respect to the man in the cage but his antics outside the cage are childish.

You're saying that Conor, in 4 months could go from where he was on the ground to tapping a guy who has never been tapped in the octagon, a Cesar Gracie JJ black belt, just by drilling one sub. Do you think that after facing quite a few black belts that couldn't tap Nate, it's just that easy for a guy like Conor to do that? As far as the standup goes, Nate was getting hit but not hurt. Conor got taken apart when Nate put his foot on the gas in the stand up. Then he turtled and got choked out. Nate is better than Conor everywhere. It's a bit closer on the feet but it's lightyears away on the ground.

 

[changospank]

You're saying that Conor, in 4 months could go from where he was on the ground to tapping a guy who has never been tapped in the octagon, a Cesar Gracie JJ black belt, just by drilling one sub. Do you think that after facing quite a few black belts that couldn't tap Nate, it's just that easy for a guy like Conor to do that? As far as the standup goes, Nate was getting hit but not hurt. Conor got taken apart when Nate put his foot on the gas in the stand up. Then he turtled and got choked out. Nate is better than Conor everywhere. It's a bit closer on the feet but it's lightyears away on the ground.

I'm saying if Nate is hurt and groggy or going into a position thinking he's safe and leaves his neck out in a perfect position then yes Conor can latch on with built up muscle memory he was training for and squeeze a guillotine or maybe a leg lock. what percentage do i give that possible outcome? i give it a 2% chance. but can you deny the possibility exists? now Nate can be drilling a solid head kick, gaining flexibility and speed on a head kick and could rock and hurt Conor and head kick him to sleep. what percentage does that have? i give it a 5% chance.

 

[blazerkor]

I'm saying if Nate is hurt and groggy or going into a position thinking he's safe and leaves his neck out in a perfect position then yes Conor can latch on with built up muscle memory he was training for and squeeze a guillotine or maybe a leg lock. what percentage do i give that possible outcome? i give it a 2% chance. but can you deny the possibility exists? now Nate can be drilling a solid head kick, gaining flexibility and speed on a head kick and could rock and hurt Conor and head kick him to sleep. what percentage does that have? i give it a 5% chance.

I'm saying that we saw Conor hit Nate with everything he had and the guy didn't get groggy. I'm saying I've seen both Diaz brothers hurt from stand up, go to their back and never get tapped, at least not in the past decade. So how is a guy going to drill on or two moves for 4 months when Nate has been drilling those same moves and their defense for two decades. Nate also teaches people how to drill both sides of those moves so I give it like a .0005% chance of happening, I guess nothing is impossible but the idea of Conor subbing Nate is about as close to impossible in the Octagon as anything else I've ever heard.