News Dana claims Poirier didn't want to fight, Poirier responds

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  1. VVarhead Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Nothing of that matters. The Point is, when Jones called for more payment 90% of fans were shitting on him even though he had a stronger leg to stand on. Now when Poirier does the same thing everyone gets behind him and calls Dana a liar.
    But Dana wasn't a liar when he said Jones wanted "Deontay Wilder Money" to fight Ngannou even though thats obviously bullshit?
     
  2. VVarhead Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Stop being a fool and believing corporate billionaires who rip off fighters since a long long time now.
    Neither Jones, nor DJ nor Poirier was in the wrong when they requested a bump in payment.

    And none of them were asking for unrealistic pay increases, they have Managers who handle the negotiations, they have a team around them - they know they can't request "Deontay Wilder Money" as Dana loves to call it. They know their employer, they know Dana.
     
  3. 2EZ Purple Belt

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    Dana dont give a fuck about anybody to throw dustin under the bus like that after all his bangers
     
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    Do shorter 3 fight contracts and attempt to increase after each contract, or get your 5 fight contract where you’re happy until/unless you become champion then change the contract, per negotiating the contract you’re planning to sign.

    asking for more money after you sign is diva stuff and not really how it works. Especially during a worldwide pandemic.

    maybe I’m wrong
     
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  5. TerrorTimmy Three piece and a soda

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    Looks like the fat guy from Jurassic Park that fucked everything up and then got eaten
     
  6. Al Stone Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Bruh you gotta learn to comprehend I literally said the aame thing and agreed with you.
     
  7. Mr Fahrenheit Purple Belt

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    Effective tactic by Dana IMO. Not that DP will immediately cave, but it puts some pressure on him to prove Dana wrong.
     
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    I guess it all comes down to if you think dustin is in a good bargaining position or not, and was it about money. The goof is right in saying that a fighter can just continually negotiate without any real intention of fighting, as a cover.

    It makes too much sense for these two to fight, i hope they reconsider it.
     
  9. KantoTerror Silver Belt

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    Dustin deserves a good payday...he always brings on the heat....plus he has great fights...
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  10. GIBLERTBAPTISTA very allegorical

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    Don't forget about Dana flying out to some unknown island to negotiate with Fedor's team.

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    Dana's quick to throw anyone under the bus who doesnt bow to him. Even his own fighters.
     
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    You know what, if Tony vs Poirier happens at UFC 254 then it will only be 3 rounds because obviously the main event is Khabib vs Gaethje. 3 rounds for Tony/Poirier fight is absurd and not right, we don't want 3 rounds.. it will be over before it begun and we will be screaming for another 2 rounds.

    Tony vs Poirier HAS to be a 5 round fight, this is the type of fight that needs to be 5 rounds. So maybe its a blessing in disguise, if they re-book this fight at a later date and make it the main event of a Fight Night card.. it needs to be 5 rounds. Maybe it was a blessing in disguise
     
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    Wants more than what is initially offered = Negotiated his way out of a fight
     
  13. Mr Fahrenheit Purple Belt

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    Disagree. There’s probably no one person more responsible for the sport being what it is today than Dana. He has his quirks but almost everyone who puts his own dent in the universe does.
     
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  14. Mr Fahrenheit Purple Belt

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    They should just book it as a 5 round co-main event. Is there any reason they couldn’t do that that I’m missing?
     
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    Dustin isn’t some no name, he’s earned his place. I won’t explain how he is obligated and I don’t care, I watch for the fighters not to applaud a businessman.
     
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    Newman?
     
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    I agree they should, but they only do 5 rounds co-main if its a fight for the belt, otherwise its always 3 rounds, which is stupid and I don't know why.
     
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    Dana's minds games are so obvious and lazy. He said the same shit about Frankie Edgar, Cyborg, and GSP. All proven warriors. He's mad that Dusting knows his worth and want's to get paid.
     
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    This is a business. Salaries will always be the subject of a game of tug of war between fighters and ownership. Fighters often go public when this happens, knowing that most people tend to have resentful, anti-management sentiments and will be on their side. Management goes public with tactics of their own. As Colin would say, it’s only business.

    My prediction is that this fight will get made. Dana did not want to just sit there with negotiations stalled and everyone from Ferguson to the media saying it’s cheap Dana preventing us from seeing our fight. So he put a little needle into Dustin. Now, when the UFC comes back with an improved offer DP will have an additional piece of motivation to take it.
     
  20. Mr Fahrenheit Purple Belt

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    To most people all business owners are Scrooge McDuck swimming in a room of gold coins, and none of what you said about boring things like revenues and budgets means anything. Run the headline, “employee asks for a thing, manager says no,” and you’ll get these responses.

    That being said, I’m not going to criticize Dustin either. He’s testing the boundaries to find out what he can get.

    This is how all prices are determined. Who is to say what the “fair” price of a loaf of bread is? People bake bread, they put it up for sale, customers buy it or don’t buy it, and the price gets worked out over time. Bakers would like to sell it for more, customers would like to buy it for less, but the price lands at a place wherever both sides will be willing to engage in the transaction. Same thing for salaries.
     
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