Every ref in the business gets reemed on Sherdog at one time or another. I have heard people say that even John McCarthy and Herb Dean were terrible refs on here. The fact is, it's a tough job and requires split second decisions, and even the best refs don't get it right every time. When Roy Nelson pummeled Bigfoot Silva, people said McCarthy sucked, and I know Herb Dean has taken a lot of crap for a few decisions he has made, and they both will be HOF refs someday. Dan Miragliotta is a good ref too. NOBODY is perfect.