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Nothing of what you said has a bearing on crocop being #2 heavyweight of all time.So you think Aliakbari, who got his gold medal stripped for doping, was fighting clean? Finishing Mo and Aliakbari is much more impressive than anything Arlovski did lately, and UFC has him at #7 ffs. Someone like Ismael Londt would have a field day with the UFC HW roster if he learned takedown defense.