critique this tabata routine...

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  1. largeli

    largeli Orange Belt

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    I will do resistance band curls, dips, and push ups useing tabata method. Doing each excercise at max output for 20 seconds followed by 10 seconds rest. I will do this for 10 minutes. Now 10 minutes just doesnt seem like enough time to effectively work all these muscles and so i wanted to get some opinions on whether or not this is a suffient routine to condition/strengthen these muscles.

    Am i even doing this right? Or are tabatas suppossed to be used with one excercise at a time i.e. only push ups for x amount of minutes?
     
  2. krellik

    krellik Gimli son of Cisco

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    Dude im sceptical to freaking band curls! And I think you should read up some more on tabatas!
     
  3. Urban

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    Tabata's are not circuits. They're four minutes of one exercise (20 seconds work, 10 seconds rest). after that you can switch to a new exercise for the next 4 minutes if you so desire. They're best applied to compound exercises. If you want to hit your biceps tabata style, do pullups. and where is your lower body work? Do this: 4 minutes of tabata DB thrusters then 4 minutes of tabata pullups. Two exercises, eight minutes, and you won't be at all concerned that you didn't work your muscles hard enough.
     
  4. largeli

    largeli Orange Belt

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    thanks for that info bro.....one excercise for 4 minutes, no circuits.
     
  5. Richard Emling

    Richard Emling Black Belt Professional Fighter

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    band curls wtf
     
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    Madmick Freedom!!! Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    You won't be thanking him 4 minutes from now.
     
  7. largeli

    largeli Orange Belt

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    lol, whats up with the stretch band hate over here?
     
  8. Urban

    Urban Savage Mystic

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    it's just a stupid fucking exercise is all. Curls? they don't bring much to the table and they're pretty useless for developing any sort of functional strength. do something better with your time. and it's not like they're even heavy thickbar cheat curls (one of the few justifiable curls IMO), they're band curls. Seriously, do pullups instead. You bought a jumpstretch band, that's too bad. Take it as a financial loss or poor investment, and move on.
     
  9. largeli

    largeli Orange Belt

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    yeah youre right curls are mostly 'cosmetic' you could say since they just help build your 'show off muscles' .....but what about for escapeing or resisting an armbar? Wouldnt curls help with bicep strength in fighting off an armbar?
     
  10. Urban

    Urban Savage Mystic

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    Ever been put in an armbar? I have one day of sambo practice under my belt and I gaurantee if I get you in an armbar you're fucked unless you can curl more than my bodyweight with one arm.
     
  11. krellik

    krellik Gimli son of Cisco

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    Well to be fair we are not talking about a locked out armbar so we are not talking your bodyweight yet, -but- since there are more efective ways to build strenght it is still bullshit!
     
  12. Urban

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    If you're trying to curl your way out of an armbar, you need grappling practice big time. It seems pretty obvious to me that's not how you escape.
     
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    krellik Gimli son of Cisco

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    Well im asuming we are talking about when you have your both hands clamped together and trying to find an angle to escape the completion of the lock, here some biceps strength might help to give a valuable split second to escape on.

    Still to base doing a bunch of curls because of this is retarded for several reasons.
     
  14. Reakt

    Reakt Green Belt

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    man biceps are functional especially for grappling IMO, obviously your not going to curl your way out of an arm bar thats just stupid. But when I got back into wrestling and BJJ after mabey a year of not doing it, the next day my biceps were the sorest muscle in my body. Same thing with manual labour. Just dont focus on biceps like the majority of the fags in the gym just add a 2-3 sets of thick bar curls or sandbag curls at the end of your workout.
     
  15. batman69

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    what you want for escaping armbars is technique, and more technique. if you are curling out of an armbar it's because the person putting it on you is not using their body correctly in aplying the armbar. don't lift weights to substitute for what you need to learn on the mat, use the weights to get stronger, which will aid your technique when rolling.
     
  16. Aardvark

    Aardvark White Belt

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    Even if you want to power out of an armbar, the motion is a lot more like a row. You're pulling your elbow out from between his legs, not trying to curl your arm back.

    Very very very few motions in any kind of sport are the movement of a single muscle. There's really no reason to do curls when you can do chin ups or rows instead.
     
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    I also agree that you do need some type of bicep strength with grappling. Especially if you want to suck a guys legs in. If anything work them so they wont get injured, or get tendonitis. Just something basic just to keep them in shape is all.

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  18. largeli

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    yeah actually i have been able to fight off several arm bars useing bicep strength.....not bicep strength alone but definitely used biceps to keep elbow bent long enough to bring my other arm free and eventually clasp my hands together.
     
  19. largeli

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    just to clarify, i am not suggesting that i can curl my way out of an arm bar BUT curls and strong biceps can and have helped me keep my elbow from hyperextending in an arm bar long enough to escape or at least bring my free arm around to assist.
     
  20. Chris Kimmerly

    Chris Kimmerly Amateur Fighter

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    Man I don't care if you can curl 200 lbs with one arm your arm can still be losked out. ANd also the bigger the bicep the less lock-out you need for a submission
     

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