Critique my Grappling "Teaching" Plan

[triso]

So, I

 

[yella91]

That seems like a lot of stuff to take in for a novice. I remember just learning hip escapes on my first day. Teach him positions rather than drills. Show him a good guard, a good posture from inside the guard, the sidemount(cent kilos) and the mount. Then roll a little bit and he'll see how the game is played.

 

[bacon]

Agree with yella. If this guy has never grappled before, he'll be overwhelmed. Keep it simple and focus on basics. He'll have a hard time retaining it if you haul ass through the techniques.

 

[triso]

So maybe focus on one position per day? Or only 2 techniques per position. I already taught him some basic positions and theories to positions and I will of course enfource base, posture, and reasoning with every position I show him.

 

[Aesopian]

Edit: Just read your reply. It sounds like you've got the right idea, and I now see that you've shown him some before. Here's my advice anyway:

I had the same thought right away -- too much, too fast for someone that new. I would pick some solid basic basics and remove most submissions. Think back to when you first started. Unless you were just totally awesome, you probably had trouble just remembering the first techniques you learn when asked to do them 2 minutes later. Everything feels unnatural and awkward. You've never moved your body like that before, and you're still trying to grasp what all the different names mean and what positions are good and bad.

So don't present too much material and don't instill on too much perfection.

Here's what I always teach new guys in their first class:

Warm-up:

Forward breakfall.
Backwards breakfall.
Shrimping.

Technique:

Upa mount escape.
Basic closed guard pass to 100 kilos.
How to mount.
Americana.

These moves all flow naturally from one to another and teach the positional dominance theory (escape, pass guard, improve position, dominant position, submission).

But I actually don't expect them to "get" that right away. When teaching this, I have to be happy if they can just manage to stumble through the most rudimentary forms of these moves. They will lose a lot of the details and have trouble with some things. Help them the best you can but do not worry about perfection. Drilling and experience is what they need more than anything now. Getting them to just do another rep is probably a better use of time than stopping to talk about how the last one "felt".

I do think you're got the right idea to spar the positions in isolation. I think people of any experience level could benefit from doing that more.

 

[krellik]

Agreed that is information overload.

Furthermore I believe it is good to focus a few sessions on only groundwork first before you start to broaden the game. Makes it easier for him to understand one thing (the ground)...

 

[cheesesteak]

i think you should add BREAK FALLS to day 1.

 

[Pine]

Day 1:
Positions - Mount, guard, half guard, back control, side control, maybe a knee on belly.
Escapes - Elbow to knee, upa
Sweeps: Scissor
Submissions: Armbar from mount and guard, figure four from mount, guillotine from mount, rear naked choke.

That's how I was introduced to jiu jitsu, and it was successful.

Your schedule is huge man.

 

[triso]

I wouldn't say it's any larger then what you posted. I don't know if it was overlooked, but that was 2 days of info right there, not one. Week 1 Day 1 and Week 1 Day 2.

I had already planned to show him breakfalls, sprawl drills, hip escapes, and basic bridges as part of a short warm-up we would do before each session. You have to remember too, that he is not fully into grappling yet, so he needs to have something fun to hold his interest. If I only teach him position, guard passes, and escapes, he will most likely get bored rather quickly.

I also know his style, and he likes to see how things flow, the kind of guy who asks, “but how would we get to this position” or “how would I escape this submission”. That’s why I was trying to make things a little more logical in terms of Guard Pass, the submission you can get off the guard pass, the reversal to that submission, and the possible sweep you can get if the submission is failing.

Keep coming with the comments. This thread is constructive.

 

[tudor_bjj]

Oh, oh, slow down, bro. That's too much info. 2 or 3 techs per day. Start with basic escapes. Don't forget self-def. techniques. Armbar from my point of view is a little too advanced esp. from guard. Drill, drill, drill!

 

[Jujitsuboxer]

i woudl start with few subs more of a submission type of thing, first whiel it rained grappling we didn't ahve any subs just postioning works well i think. I woudl go with postions and escapes and sweeps

 

[Pine]

I wouldn't say it's any larger then what you posted.

Didn't you ask for our input? I didn't say 'critique my critique of your critique'.

 

[Mirada]

When I first started teaching I would show waaaay to much stuff. In fact I still do, but I've tried to cut back.

Honestly for an hour or 1.5 hour long class you should be showing maybe three or four moves, a warmup drill or two and rolling for the rest of the time.

It's a lot more helpful for someone to do three moves 20 times each than 20 moves three times each.

 

[triso]

You fuckers were right. I guess you just forget how hard this shit is after you've been doing it for a while.

I basically started him out doing a small warmup and then moved on to breakfalls, rolls, hip escapes, and sprawls. I didn

 

[Aesopian]

Sounds like it went really well, all things considered. Kudos.

 

[Doop]

yeah concentrate on only like 2 or 3 things a day

 

[azjudoboxer**]

i agree cut that curriculum in half