Crazy Monkey Defense?

Discussion in 'Standup Technique' started by cc85, Sep 6, 2010.

  1. cc85

    cc85 White Belt

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    I've been having a lot of problems with my defense lately and I was watching the Silva.Rampage fights and the defense rampage uses looked really affective so i searched it up and found its name.

    Does anyone else use this technique and is it affective in muay thai as well? I also would like it if someone could explain the proper way to use this technique . Thanks everyone.
     
  2. SAAMAG

    SAAMAG San Antonio Applied Martial Arts Group

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    You'd have to be crazy to use crazy monkey!
     
  3. dtravis92

    dtravis92 Orange Belt

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    YouTube - CrazyMonkeyDefense's Channel
    That's a 17 part guide to the CM system from their official youtube channel, on that youtube account they also have tons of other videos you might want to look at, such as

    YouTube - CrazyMonkeyDefense's Channel
    excerpts of the CMD Sparring 101 dvd.

    I think its a good back up system to have, but most of the time you would be better suited with a more textbook boxing or muay thai defense.
     
  4. Bennosuke

    Bennosuke Blue Belt

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    Couldn't get the links to work. How do you have a defense technique that is 17 parts long???
     
  5. dtravis92

    dtravis92 Orange Belt

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    It's not a defense technique, its a complete system. They have CM1 which is the hand motions people associate with crazy monkey, which is done at the end of someones punching range. Then they have CM2, which is all about getting inside on a person to deliver your shots. I think CM3 is their version of the clinch too, but im not sure

    YouTube - CrazyMonkeyDefense's Channel
    thats their youtube channel, look at their videos. If you click playlists you will see Introduction to cm boxing and cmd sparring 101.
     
  6. FadeIntoViolenc

    FadeIntoViolenc Orange Belt

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    Oh god is this like that 52 blocks shit...
     
  7. 256

    256 Purple Belt

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    Just learn the Crain Kick and you wont have to block...


    Sheesh, kids these days!
     
  8. Tempo

    Tempo Brown Belt

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    its good for using against guys using wide hooks.. like wandy. Really good for using against brawlers who just swing really wide
     
  9. ambertch

    ambertch Purple Belt

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    We've already gone over this 1000 times so I'll post a summary answer of what I think is the consensus.

    Crazy Monkey is a good system for rapidly establish a comfort zone in standup sparring, particularly if one comes from a grappling background and wants to get 'up to speed' asap. It was invented by Rodney King to bring beginners up to combat proficiency faster than traditional boxing defenses and counters, as well as being more effective in self defense situations for a beginner.

    However it is not a substitute for technical striking (be in Muay Thai or boxing) and the system definitely does have weaknesses in a combat sport competition setting, where it ties you to a certain style of fighting that is limited against a skilled opponent who will be versatile and quickly pick up on the style's weaknesses (namely, lack of mobility and body protection).

    All in all, it is an excellent introduction to sparring and if you are a beginner you should look into it, and slowly adapt to the technical styles as you gain experience.
     
  10. SteelHammer

    SteelHammer Green Belt

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    no, it was developed by south african martial arts coach Rodney King.
     
  11. Snubnoze707

    Snubnoze707 High Level

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    I don't understand why people say this. Its actually easier to block straight shots using CM than it is to block hooks.
     
  12. Snubnoze707

    Snubnoze707 High Level

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    I've trained at a gym that teaches CM for 2 years and this a pretty solid breakdown.

    There's like a 100 page thread on this subject with tons of information if the TS is interested.
     
  13. shouldercharge

    shouldercharge Dave Camarillo idoliser

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    this is me to a tee,just gone in to mma looking to have my first fight in the next 3 months time ive done some striking before but all just pad work,and not for over 6 months.first time mma sparring the other day and got owned in the stand-up is the cmd champion dvd worth getting?
     
  14. shouldercharge

    shouldercharge Dave Camarillo idoliser

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    getupgus White Belt

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    I been involved with cm for 3 yrs now. Its great for mma. stand up for mma. reading some of the comments on here they are just nonsense. Its a good tool to have.
     
  16. Kozbot

    Kozbot Purple Belt

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    it is a good beginner defense

    it allows a person to learn to defend "in the pocket" quickly. which is key for relaxing and being able to fire shots back
     
  17. Snubnoze707

    Snubnoze707 High Level

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    I was hoping this thread was about defending yourself against a crazy monkey (or ape), like that chimp who ripped that woman's face off a few year's ago.
     
  19. shouldercharge

    shouldercharge Dave Camarillo idoliser

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    theres no cmd trainer anywhere near me :(
     
  20. Mumrik

    Mumrik Silver Belt

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    If the monkey whips out 'monkey steals peach' you're done. There is no defense against that.
     

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