Law Courts award women their husbands' money

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A couple of stories came up today:

Chinese man wins £1.2 million in lottery and doesn't tell his wife. She finds out, divorces him and sues, receiving over 50%.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...secret-wife-finds-files-divorce-sues-him.html
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/man-who-kept-1million-lottery-29229891

A Chinese man who kept his multi-million lottery winnings a secret from his wife has been ordered by a court to compensate his ex-partner.

The man, whose surname was given as Zhou, won a staggering 10 million yuan (£1.2 million) in 2021.

But instead of sharing his newfound wealth with his wife, Zhou continued life as though nothing had happened and concealed the winnings from her.

Rather, Zhou transferred two million yuan to his sister, and a further 700,000 yuan to his ex-wife so that she could buy an apartment for herself.

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The ticket

Eventually, Zhou's wife discovered the hidden fortune. It is not known how she discovered that he had hidden the money, but as soon as she did, she reportedly filed for divorce and sued him for her stake of the cash.

Zhou's wife, whose name is unknown, asked the court to grant her two-thirds of the money remaining after tax.

The woman should have been entitled to half of the money on account of being married to Zhou, and asked the court for more due to him going to great lengths to conceal the jackpot from her.

A court in Wenzhou, Zhejiang, agreed with her and told Zhou he had to reimburse his now ex-wife for 2.7 million yuan.

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The articles contradict each other on some details. The Mirror says he only won ¥8.43 million and that his wife asked for and received 50% of 'their' property but 67% of the '¥2.7 million that was hidden from her' (the money he sent to his sister and ex).


Widow left out of husband’s will after 66-year marriage wins half of £1m estate

https://www.theguardian.com/law/202...after-66-year-marriage-wins-half-of-1m-estate

A widow whose husband of 66 years excluded her and their four daughters from his will, and left everything to their two sons, has won a high court case for a share of an estate worth more than £1m.

Mr Justice Peel heard that Karnail Singh, who died in 2021, “wished to leave his estate solely down the male line” after writing his will in 2005. He heard that Harbans Kaur, who married Singh in 1955, estimated the estate to be worth £1.9m gross but one of her sons put the value at £1.2m.

The judge, who heard the family had run a clothing business, ruled Kaur, 83, should get 50% of the net value of the estate. He said it was clear “reasonable provision” had not been made for Kaur, whose income consisted of state benefits of about £12,000.

“The reason why the will was crafted in these terms, excluding the claimant and the other four siblings, was because the deceased wished to leave his estate solely down the male line.”

He added: “It seems to me that this is the clearest possible case entitling me to conclude that reasonable provision has not been made for the claimant.

“It is hard to see how any other conclusion can be reached.

“After a marriage of 66 years, to which she made a full and equal contribution, and during which all the assets accrued, she is left with next to nothing.”

He said she should “receive 50% of the net value of the estate”.

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It seems that if you are a married man your property is not necessarily your own.
 
He's a turd. If they were married when it happened she should have got 50%. I would have punished him additionally for the snake move.
Yeah the China story is actually not as awful as it seems. Doesn’t seem completely right to me, but the OP IS correct with his last observation that your property is not entirely yours during a marriage.

The English one (hilarious it’s “English” because it’s an incredibly misogynistic Asian man) is even less outrageous, because as far as we know, he was married until he died. He just clung on to outdated beliefs.

Should widows not get a portion of the estate because the husband thinks he still lives in India?

You want individualism & all of your property, don’t get married. I hate alimony but these stories are not it.

I think you misread the English story, because it is totally not controversial in my eyes.
 
At what point in time are people going to understand the concept of "marital property"?

As I always do, I see larger issues in the types of stories that people think are outrageous. In this story, it reminds me that many of the people who scream about "family values" often abandon the principles when it comes to material assets and wives. When it comes to materialism, I see too many people who decide that their wives should leave with nothing and that nothing the woman did during the marriage has any value, past, present or future. It's a very self-centered viewpoint on marriage as a partnership.

Rather than viewing their wives as people they initially agreed to partner with and care for, they seem to frame the relationship as one where their wives owed them something in exchange for the "gift" of being married to them.

The courts generally have it right. If you're married then you both own the stuff and when you divorce, you don't get to throw the other person out into the street as if the past years of co-dependent, cohabitation never happened.
 
What a greedy fuck. He dun goofed.

He hit the jackpot and should have just been happy with that, knowing he could afford to leave the battle axe, and should have just given half to get rid of her and live his Chinese life like a King.
 
I'm trying to find that 20/20 or Dateline story.

got into a big argument with my GF at the time over this story.

Cliffs:

1) husband/wife in a loveless relationship. she's more attractive than he is, they both work

2) wife buys a lotto ticket, wins. files for divorce immediately.

3) husband finds out, and takes her to court, demanding half.

4) judge is pissed about this whole story. awards ALL the lotto winnings to husband.
 
A couple of stories came up today:

Chinese man wins £1.2 million in lottery and doesn't tell his wife. She finds out, divorces him and sues, receiving over 50%.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...secret-wife-finds-files-divorce-sues-him.html
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/man-who-kept-1million-lottery-29229891

A Chinese man who kept his multi-million lottery winnings a secret from his wife has been ordered by a court to compensate his ex-partner.

The man, whose surname was given as Zhou, won a staggering 10 million yuan (£1.2 million) in 2021.

But instead of sharing his newfound wealth with his wife, Zhou continued life as though nothing had happened and concealed the winnings from her.

Rather, Zhou transferred two million yuan to his sister, and a further 700,000 yuan to his ex-wife so that she could buy an apartment for herself.

0_ticket.jpg

The ticket

Eventually, Zhou's wife discovered the hidden fortune. It is not known how she discovered that he had hidden the money, but as soon as she did, she reportedly filed for divorce and sued him for her stake of the cash.

Zhou's wife, whose name is unknown, asked the court to grant her two-thirds of the money remaining after tax.

The woman should have been entitled to half of the money on account of being married to Zhou, and asked the court for more due to him going to great lengths to conceal the jackpot from her.

A court in Wenzhou, Zhejiang, agreed with her and told Zhou he had to reimburse his now ex-wife for 2.7 million yuan.

/

The articles contradict each other on some details. The Mirror says he only won ¥8.43 million and that his wife asked for and received 50% of 'their' property but 67% of the '¥2.7 million that was hidden from her' (the money he sent to his sister and ex).


Widow left out of husband’s will after 66-year marriage wins half of £1m estate

https://www.theguardian.com/law/202...after-66-year-marriage-wins-half-of-1m-estate

A widow whose husband of 66 years excluded her and their four daughters from his will, and left everything to their two sons, has won a high court case for a share of an estate worth more than £1m.

Mr Justice Peel heard that Karnail Singh, who died in 2021, “wished to leave his estate solely down the male line” after writing his will in 2005. He heard that Harbans Kaur, who married Singh in 1955, estimated the estate to be worth £1.9m gross but one of her sons put the value at £1.2m.

The judge, who heard the family had run a clothing business, ruled Kaur, 83, should get 50% of the net value of the estate. He said it was clear “reasonable provision” had not been made for Kaur, whose income consisted of state benefits of about £12,000.

“The reason why the will was crafted in these terms, excluding the claimant and the other four siblings, was because the deceased wished to leave his estate solely down the male line.”

He added: “It seems to me that this is the clearest possible case entitling me to conclude that reasonable provision has not been made for the claimant.

“It is hard to see how any other conclusion can be reached.

“After a marriage of 66 years, to which she made a full and equal contribution, and during which all the assets accrued, she is left with next to nothing.”

He said she should “receive 50% of the net value of the estate”.

/

It seems that if you are a married man your property is not necessarily your own.

If the situation were reversed, would you be fine with a husband being left to ruin after 66 years of marriage and the wife giving all the money to her daughters?

What about your wife winning the lottery and not telling you, and giving a bunch of the cash to her ex bf's and brother? I am assuming that's Ok with you.
 
If the situation were reversed, would you be fine with a husband being left to ruin after 66 years of marriage and the wife giving all the money to her daughters?

What about your wife winning the lottery and not telling you, and giving a bunch of the cash to her ex bf's and brother? I am assuming that's Ok with you.

Whether it's me or someone else involved or the sexes of the people involved do not affect my opinion on this matter.
 
Whether it's me or someone else involved or the sexes of the people involved do not affect my opinion on this matter.

Then why did you only refer to married men in your post? That seems like a weak bitch move given your claim that you are above the gender fray.
 
I'm trying to find that 20/20 or Dateline story.

got into a big argument with my GF at the time over this story.

Cliffs:

1) husband/wife in a loveless relationship. she's more attractive than he is, they both work

2) wife buys a lotto ticket, wins. files for divorce immediately.

3) husband finds out, and takes her to court, demanding half.

4) judge is pissed about this whole story. awards ALL the lotto winnings to husband.
Hubby should have got two thirds or three quarters. It has to be taken into to consideration that without her purchase there'd be nothing to divvy up, so she's due something.

As a coworker once said "if I won the lottery I'd give the wife half and tell her to gtfo" Fair enough. If you try to hide assets you should be penalized. Yet another example of how the golden rule could save people grief.
 
Hubby should have got two thirds or three quarters. It has to be taken into to consideration that without her purchase there'd be nothing to divvy up, so she's due something.

As a coworker once said "if I won the lottery I'd give the wife half and tell her to gtfo" Fair enough. If you try to hide assets you should be penalized. Yet another example of how the golden rule could save people grief.

they interviewed both parties. and the interviewer did ask a similar question.

"...you know, this was your wife. someone you loved. some would say that you shouldn't have ill will and still give her half or a part of the winnings. what would you say to those people?"

his response:

"normally I would agree. but when she divorced me she had every intention of keeping all the money. I'm going to show her the same respect she gave me."
 
Then why did you only refer to married men in your post? That seems like a weak bitch move given your claim that you are above the gender fray.

Because the examples are about men. I also think this happens much more often female on male than vice versa.
 
they interviewed both parties. and the interviewer did ask a similar question.

"...you know, this was your wife. someone you loved. some would say that you shouldn't have ill will and still give her half or a part of the winnings. what would you say to those people?"

his response:

"normally I would agree. but when she divorced me she had every intention of keeping all the money. I'm going to show her the same respect she gave me."
I get it, but that's just not me. And if I was pushed to that breaking point I'd be a much bigger dick about it. Like send her a framed picture of the winning ticket along with a cheque for the amount she spent on it. o_O
 
I didn't realise it was possible to marry someone you didn't want to share your wealth with lol

How do you select such a shitty partner in such a shitty relationship?
 
Everyone who's married or in any sort of very serious relationship should do a thought experiment right now. Imagine you winning a massive amount of $. Different amounts maybe depending on who you are, but has to be life altering, "fuck you" type money. Enough that you could never work again and for the most part live the lifestyle you want.

Upon learning about winning that money (seeing the lotto #'s drawn, whatever) if among the first thoughts that pop into your head aren't "Holy shit holy shit holy shit I can't wait to tell my wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend this is amazing!"...you need to do some serious self reflection on why you're even the relationship at all.
 
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