Countering posture for omoplata

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  1. Lug's Spear

    Lug's Spear Green Belt

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    I have rolled with a few people who are bigger than me who manage to power out of my omoplata simply by posturing up right off the bat. Usually I transition to a triangle or armbar, but I'm wondering if there is a way I can bring a bigger opponent back down so I can finish the omoplata?
     
  2. armtriangle

    armtriangle Brown Belt

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    Slide farther down on the arm toward the elbow, get some separation between your hips and their shoulder. I was having this same problem a while back, and sliding down for a "looser" omoplata definitely helps. But there will always be guys that can power out of the omoplata, it is a hard move to finish against guys even your own size.

    I like to grab the collar behind the head and just let their posturing momentum sweep them right over, just do a backroll with the omoplata when they sit up.
     
  3. randomg1t

    randomg1t EVERYTIME CHAMPION

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    i can't do the omoplata worth a damn, but a purple i train with has a monstrous one and if anyone tries to posture back up from his, he rolls backwards with them and puts them on their back.
     
  4. CyberFreq

    CyberFreq Blue Belt

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    1) Ask your instructor
    2) Straight legs
    3) Arm over waist grabbing farside belt/waist/lapel/whatever you can grip
    4) Pressure the shoulder hard.
     
  5. ShanghaiBJJ

    ShanghaiBJJ Brown Belt

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    this!
     
  6. sanchezero

    sanchezero Green Belt

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    straight legs is for sure a huge help. instead of triangling the arm, just thighmaster it and use your legs like a giant lever. i find this works almost all of the time for me unless i'm out of balance and can't really sit up. then i have to bail to a triangle or try for the rollback sweep (which i suck at).
     
  7. bjj wrestler

    bjj wrestler White Belt

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    I have the same problem, one thing that helps me though is scissoring the legs instead of triangling them, also hook under his leg with your arm.
     
  8. SLaKKJaW

    SLaKKJaW Blue Belt

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    I was just working on this with a guy tonight. What I do is:

    -wrist/sleeve control
    -push the head and scoot out my hips
    -slide the foot of the top leg in front of their face
    -"kick" and straighten the leg at the same time to put them off base


    The best way to keep them from posturing is to keep pressure on the shoulder with your knee and keeping them stretched way out.
     
  9. Lug's Spear

    Lug's Spear Green Belt

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    Thanks for all the tips, I'll try these out next class.
     
  10. ijustwannasurf

    ijustwannasurf Brown Belt

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  11. Bullheaded

    Bullheaded Green Belt

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    This, especially the belt. I'm always getting surprised at why people aren't controlling the hips of their opponent while going for an omoplata. It drives nuts. The escape is so easy to do when your hips are free and your a bit flexible.
     
  12. Mr. Sandman

    Mr. Sandman Blue Belt

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    Good shoulder pressure. Control the hips. Then push his knee straight back, that'll flatten him.
     
  13. netbjjer420

    netbjjer420 Green Belt

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    Just to add to the good advice to this thread, if he postures up but exposes his free arm, go for crucifix-omoplata.
     

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