and that is the problem with this debate. I've argued it over and over against the "Ronda could beat Mayweather' guys who think grapping is magic. They state 'Mayweather has no chance once she puts him on his back" and assume just because Ronda wants a TD they will occur. They ignore that the weakest parts of Ronda's game is her movement. She walks in straight lines and has no head movement and often relied on her toughness to eat a punch or two to gain clinch and take over the fight. The weakest part of her game are the most elite of Floyds. All aspects of movement, counter fighting, controlling distance, etc.
Its the same for this with Tyson. Guys who were decent at high school wrestling imagine landing a double leg and then Tyson being a turtle on his back. They forget that he is leagues faster than them in reflex and distance control and so much more explosive and powerful. Athleticism matters in a fight more than training when there is a huge gap in athleticism. A top NFl lineman with no proper fight training but lots of street fights will fuck up Steve Urkel no matter how much wrestling or BJJ training you give him.
lol.