Could Khabib destroy McGregor as much as I hope he could?

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From a technical stand point, him being an amazing grappler would he have the tools and technique to take him out? (155lbs)
 
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He could not handle Nate Diaz at welter. What is McG's natural weight? Did he even need to cut for Nate?
 
Lol at the Dagestani rape this would be.
 
Another reason why Mcgregor shouldve fought a contender before getting RDA. The top 5 would demolish Mcgregor simply cause of stronger grappling and the simple ability to take a harder punch. But in the end RDA vs Mcgregor was about money not a belt/legacy.
 
Khabib would certainly be the favourite, especially over three rounds. I'd be fairly surprised if he finished McGregor, though.
 
Zankou said:
Lol at the Dagestani rape this would be.
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Where the trigger warning...

Kidding. It really would be
PointyShinyBurn said:
Khabib would certainly be the favourite, especially over three rounds. I'd be fairly surprised if he finished McGregor, though.
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I think McGregor would break and get finished. People are going to overreact to this but my honest impression of McGregor is the same one I have of BJ Penn. He's super talented, super dangerous, extremely technical... and when there is an opponent who isn't rattled and still there mentally after the first he'll break. There's a reason he's ducking Edgar
 
jack36767 said:
I think McGregor would break and get finished. People are going to overreact to this but my honest impression of McGregor is the same one I have of BJ Penn. He's super talented, super dangerous, extremely technical... and when there is an opponent who isn't rattled and still there mentally after the first he'll break. There's a reason he's ducking Edgar
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comparing conor to penn is an insult to penn. penn was a BJJ world champion 2 weeks after getting his black belt in record time, who came into MMA and knocked fools out left and right with his boxing. imagine buchecha coming to the UFC and knocking out cain and JDS in his second and third fight.

i can see the comparison as far as fighting back from a deficit goes, but from a technical standpoint BJ has forgotten more about fighting than conor will ever know.
 
randomg1t said:
comparing conor to penn is an insult to penn. penn was a BJJ world champion 2 weeks after getting his black belt in record time, who came into MMA and knocked fools out left and right with his boxing. imagine buchecha coming to the UFC and knocking out cain and JDS in his second and third fight.

i can see the comparison as far as fighting back from a deficit goes, but from a technical standpoint BJ has forgotten more about fighting than conor will ever know.
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I'll give you that BJ is a much much better fighter. I'm not disputing that or dissing BJ. But my main point remains the same, both are/were super talented/technical. (And Conor is a talent that's undeniable) but have/never seen any indication either could fight back from a deficit
 
Sad that even the grappling forums are spewing the same crap as the heavies. Conor's ground game is good. It's not exceptional, but it's good. He's out grappled BJJ black belts before. Nate won the fight before it ever got to the ground. Whether Khabib would destory McGregor or not, who knows. Maybe we will, some day. Saying the guy who beat the #1 P4P fighter in 13 seconds has no chance is just silly, though.
 
n.diazismylife1999 said:
Sad that even the grappling forums are spewing the same crap as the heavies. Conor's ground game is good. It's not exceptional, but it's good. He's out grappled BJJ black belts before. Nate won the fight before it ever got to the ground. Whether Khabib would destory McGregor or not, who knows. Maybe we will, some day. Saying the guy who beat the #1 P4P fighter in 13 seconds has no chance is just silly, though.
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I'm not a blind Conor hater. I went back and watched all of his fights without sound after the Mendes fight as impartially as possible like I was studying film and scouting for one of the kids I coach.There's a reason I defended his talent and technical abilities. But saying there hasn't been exposed deficits, or that he hasn't been extremely selective of opponents is just as stupid as saying he sucked and is a pussy. In fact you can argue for his intelligence as a businessman and promote for who's he's fought. But trying to say there isn't very distinct and clear reasons why it was Mendes instead of Edgar and Edgar hasn't gotten the fight is naive and like saying Conor didn't get in Aldos head and KO him in 13 seconds

There's such a thing as a balanced nuanced view. And if he proves me wrong I'll be the first to admit it. Seriously screen shot this if it happens. But my honest opinion is that if Conor can't knock out Khabib in the first round, the question becomes how quickly does he get finished. Honestly I would like to see Conor fight at lightweight against someone his size
 
jack36767 said:
I'm not a blind Conor hater. I went back and watched all of his fights without sound after the Mendes fight as impartially as possible like I was studying film and scouting for one of the kids I coach.There's a reason I defended his talent and technical abilities. But saying there hasn't been exposed deficits, or that he hasn't been extremely selective of opponents is just as stupid as saying he sucked and is a pussy. In fact you can argue for his intelligence as a businessman and promote for who's he's fought. But trying to say there isn't very distinct and clear reasons why it was Mendes instead of Edgar and Edgar hasn't gotten the fight is naive and like saying Conor didn't get in Aldos head and KO him in 13 seconds

There's such a thing as a balanced nuanced view. And if he proves me wrong I'll be the first to admit it. Seriously screen shot this if it happens. But my honest opinion is that if Conor can't knock out Khabib in the first round, the question becomes how quickly does he get finished. Honestly I would like to see Conor fight at lightweight against someone his size
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He's been extremely selective of opponents? Nonsense. He accepted Mendes as a replacement when he had torn his ACL and had been unable to train against takedowns properly for much of his camp. Mendes was a very dangerous opponent, and if he was "extremely selective" he wouldn't have taken the fight, he'd have waited for Aldo to heal. It was Mendes instead of Edgar because Mendes was ranked higher than Edgar. Simple as that. Why would he take a lower ranked opponent?
 
n.diazismylife1999 said:
He's been extremely selective of opponents? Nonsense. He accepted Mendes as a replacement when he had torn his ACL and had been unable to train against takedowns properly for much of his camp. Mendes was a very dangerous opponent, and if he was "extremely selective" he wouldn't have taken the fight, he'd have waited for Aldo to heal. It was Mendes instead of Edgar because Mendes was ranked higher than Edgar. Simple as that. Why would he take a lower ranked opponent?
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Like I said, I am not an extremist either way when it comes to him. But yes he's been selective, and the rankings don't mean jack squat. News flash, and at the time it Edgar was right in the running to get the fight as well. And I asked my athletic trainer who rehabbed my torn acl.. you cannot have an "80 percent torn acl".

And I know I'll have to repeat this.I am not a Conor hater. I was a wrestler rooting for Mendes and you know what.. Mendes was cheating and eye gouging McGregor.. shocking I'm not blindly favoring one person. Same way yes the short camp affected his cardio.. so did Conor slamming his foot into Mendes gut and sternum

Shocking I know, a view that considers both sides and factors and doesn't blindly glorify or hate either
 
jack36767 said:
Like I said, I am not an extremist either way when it comes to him. But yes he's been selective, and the rankings don't mean jack squat. News flash, and at the time it Edgar was right in the running to get the fight as well. And I asked my athletic trainer who rehabbed my torn acl.. you cannot have an "80 percent torn acl".

And I know I'll have to repeat this.I am not a Conor hater. I was a wrestler rooting for Mendes and you know what.. Mendes was cheating and eye gouging McGregor.. shocking I'm not blindly favoring one person. Same way yes the short camp affected his cardio.. so did Conor slamming his foot into Mendes gut and sternum

Shocking I know, a view that considers both sides and factors and doesn't blindly glorify or hate either
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You repeating you're not an extremist doesn't seem to have any relevance to this conversation, so I'm not sure why you keep doing that. No, he's not been selective. Claiming rankings don't mean anything is just silly. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best ranked people. If the #1 pulls out, it only makes sense to fight #2, if you want to fight the best.

And you also haven't provided any logical reasoning for "Conor is selective", besides because-I-say-so and your constant repetition of how unbiased you are. As opposed to all the haters who say they're blinded by hate and are totally biased.

Not to mention... why are we even talking about this? Why did you bring up Conor being selective, when the topic is about his grappling ability?
 
n.diazismylife1999 said:
You repeating you're not an extremist doesn't seem to have any relevance to this conversation, so I'm not sure why you keep doing that. No, he's not been selective. Claiming rankings don't mean anything is just silly. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best ranked people. If the #1 pulls out, it only makes sense to fight #2, if you want to fight the best.

And you also haven't provided any logical reasoning for "Conor is selective", besides because-I-say-so and your constant repetition of how unbiased you are. As opposed to all the haters who say they're blinded by hate and are totally biased.

Not to mention... why are we even talking about this? Why did you bring up Conor being selective, when the topic is about his grappling ability?
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The first actual wrestler he fought came in on 2 weeks notice and not training. Other respected writers and people like Jack Slack who get pissed at people who obnoxiously hate on him will also say he's been "smart" about picking opponents. That's just one example of many.

So all that leads to my opinion that McGregor would get the shit beat out of him by Khabib due to the fact he gets taken down easy. We have seen nothing from his back except a sweep in transition and escapes when a gassed opponent went for a sloppy crucifixe and guillotine. Along with the fact Conor won't have a size or massive reach advantage. And from everything I've seen. I really think he becomes a lesser fighter when he can't bully or get into the head of an opponent
 
jack36767 said:
The first actual wrestler he fought came in on 2 weeks notice and not training. Other respected writers and people like Jack Slack who get pissed at people who obnoxiously hate on him will also say he's been "smart" about picking opponents. That's just one example of many.

So all that leads to my opinion that McGregor would get the shit beat out of him by Khabib due to the fact he gets taken down easy. We have seen nothing from his back except a sweep in transition and escapes when a gassed opponent went for a sloppy crucifixe and guillotine. Along with the fact Conor won't have a size or massive reach advantage. And from everything I've seen. I really think he becomes a lesser fighter when he can't bully or get into the head of an opponent
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All evidence points toward the fact that McGregor does not cherry pick his opponents. Dana White said "Conor will fight anyone, he doesn't care" - and that's actual evidence from someone in-the-know, and the only possible rebuttal to that is "but Dana lies!!!! Conspiracy!!!!" Which, yeah, isn't a very good counter-argument. If you've followed Conor, it's clear that the man believes in himself and before his loss to Diaz, thought himself pretty much invincible. He certainly wasn't ducking the #3 of the division he wanted to be the champion of, when being supremely confident that he was going to KO the #1 P4P fighter who had been the only FW champion the UFC had ever had, and had beaten Edgar as well. Whether Conor actually would have/would beat Edgar is neither here nor there: it's very clear Conor didn't fear him.

Aldo pulled out. Conor didn't deviously plan on giving Mendes only two weeks to prepare. It's not his fault that Mendes only had a 2 week warning.

None of this still has any relevance to how Conor would do against Khabib, though.

Brandão is a legit BJJ Black Belt, and Conor had absolutely no trouble with him on the ground. Conor got his guard passed very easily against Mendes, which is worrying, but that's about the only recent thing he's shown that gives cause for concern. You also have multiple world class grapplers vouching for Conor's grappling - Ryan Hall, Eddie Bravo, Rener Gracie, etc.

Yet, no one denies that Khabib is one of the worst opponents Conor could face. But no one knows how that fight would really go. Conor's surprised people before. I know that I certainly wouldn't bet the house against Conor in that match up, even if I think Khabib is the favorite.
 
Connor would get mauled
 
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