Could Judo become more effective than wrestling in the UFC?

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Obviously historically wrestlers have had more success, but it seems like fighters are also more trained in defending against traditional wrestling takedowns, whereas judokas seem less understood and thus throw people around like ragdolls.


 
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Based on what? One judoka fighting in the women's division?
 
There just aren't enough judokas in UFC though.

70 percent of UFC fighters are americans and probably 80 percent of them have wrestling background. Naturally wrestling techniques will be more prevalent and wrestlers have more chances of being succesful through sheer probability alone. Its also a matter of statistics and probability. Judo is highly underrated imo.
 
This reminds me of when Fedor beat Big Nog and people started talking about how Sambo made BJJ obsolete.
 
Do you have any examples of this or are you just basing this off of Ronda Rousey?

With that being said, I am not a judo expert but it seems to me like with Judo, you are trained to get people to the ground but they don't focus that hard on keeping people on the ground like Wrestlers do.

That is why the advantage will go to wrestlers.

I am predicting this will be fully displayed in the Rousey vs McCann fight.
 
Dong Hyun Kim has said many times MMA fighters have a really good understanding of freestyle wrestling and defending double legs and single legs, but that MMA fighters are not as well versed in Judo or Greco Roman and grappling in the clinch in general.
 
"could"? hard to say. i have no crystal ball. so i can only go on historical reference.

and 20 years into this experiment, the answer is a resounding no.
 
No...if it was ypu would see more Karo Parysian style guys


So happy we do not
 
No chance one champion in the weakest division has a judo base whilst Might Mouse, Weidman, Jones and Cain are all wrestlers.
 
No, but I think it has a lot to do with judo's competition mindset. Judo is in a similar quandry that top-level BJJ players had in the 90s: competition BJJ at that time, from what I could tell, was dominated with points fighting, which was all fine and dandy until they came to MMA and started getting punched in the face. Look at the majority of Carlson Gracie's BJJ champs: Amaury Bitteti, for example, arguably had some of the best BJJ credentials in the world, but couldn't figure out how to transition between BJJ and MMA. Judo has similar issues with turtling/stalling on the ground. Miss a throw? Stall until you can stand back up. Try that in MMA and you get pounded out. Try that in submission grappling and you get back-mounted and RNCd by some BJJ bluebelt. Now with their new ground-unfriendly rules changes, I fear Judo will be relegated to the same ghetto TaeKwonDo has been exiled to. It's not that Judo isn't theoretically sound in MMA, especially in the clinch game. Karo Parisyan exhibited outstanding clinch judo in his prime. I don't think it's a coincidence that RR trains at Karo's old gym and is able to better integrate judo and MMA than most others.
 
the only real issue with judo and it's effectiveness in mma, is that there are no gi's or shirts allowed. Judo would be MUCH more effective on the street. That said I think judo is amazing and can still be extremely effective in mma
 
There just aren't enough judokas in UFC though.

70 percent of UFC fighters are americans and probably 80 percent of them have wrestling background. Naturally wrestling techniques will be more prevalent and wrestlers have more chances of being succesful through sheer probability alone. Its also a matter of statistics and probability. Judo is highly underrated imo.

This.

High level judo is just not common. You can name on one hand great judokas in the UFC.
 
It's not a competition between Judo and Wrestling, it's a competition between individual human beings, who can use any and all techniques from Judo and Wrestling.
 
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