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It seems regional governments in Germany are pushing forward the approval and use of Russian and Chinese vaccines to put a bit of momentum back into their immunisation drive .
Opinion Coronavirus vaccine: Germany & EU failing their citizens. US not.
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I got mine already. Your arm will hurt like a mf the rest of the day, but be better in 24 hours. A lot of people I work with had flu like symptoms after their second dose, so I took Motrin and had no side effects at all. Not even the arm cramping.
I’m glad I’m vaccinated now. Covid can suck this dick.
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Same here, looking really forward to get the vaccine and tell COVID (and especially the coming mutations) to fuck off.
Weird that the arm pains are so heavy - but I don't mind really.
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Serious if true. Mind linking any articles
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The Guardian are reporting it and quoting the German health minister Jens Spahn .
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Ok. Yikes. No way I’d trust those two with a new vaccine
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The fact they are even considering it is really startling I mean its election year in Germany too so that might be an additional factor there , the incompetence of the European Commission is going to have far reaching consequences for member states .
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This last year has outed many politicians and technocrats as un caring , dumb or just plain corrupt. Seems many don’t even want to maintain a facade anymore. This is just another instance of that
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The Chinese vaccine with 50.4% efficacy rate? Boy, they're really desperate.
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Its better than nothing I suppose , but its odd to think that last week they were still being a bit sniffy about the Oxford vaccine .
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HCQ is way better than flipping a coin
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Hungary becomes first EU country to use Russia’s Sputnik vaccine
Country hopes to deploy China’s Sinopharm coronavirus inoculation soon
By Daniel McLaughlin in Budapest | Sun, Feb 14, 2021
Country hopes to deploy China’s Sinopharm coronavirus inoculation soon
By Daniel McLaughlin in Budapest | Sun, Feb 14, 2021
Hungary has become the first European Union member to start using Russia’s Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine and hopes to deploy China’s Sinopharm vaccine soon, despite neither having received approval from the EU’s medicines regulator.
Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orban has been a strong critic of the EU’s faltering vaccine rollout, and his government has bought enough doses of Sputnik V to inoculate 1 million people and enough Sinopharm for 2.5 million.
The Hungarian regulator has given emergency approval to both vaccines without waiting for a green light from the European Medicines Agency (EMA), which has so far cleared vaccines made by US-German firm Pfizer-BioNTech, US company Moderna and British-Swedish firm AstraZeneca with Oxford University.
Doses
“Every day that we would spend waiting for Brussels, we would lose a hundred Hungarian lives,” Mr Orban told Hungarian radio.
“Why would we think that the Europeans are smarter than we are? This isn’t true. Our professionals are at least as good as any European professional, and I don’t trust a [vaccine] analysis in Brussels more than I do in a Hungarian one. In fact, just the opposite.”
Hungary expects to receive 600,000 doses of Sputnik V and 500,000 doses of Sinopharm’s vaccine this month, as part of an accelerating inoculation programme across the country of about 10 million people.
“If we start using the Chinese vaccine, which will happen soon, then by Easter we can vaccinate every person who has registered so far... As things stand now, that will be 6.8 million people by the end of May or beginning of June,” Mr Orban said.
Moscow has dismissed concerns over the transparency of data from its tests on Sputnik V and insists the vaccine is safe and more than 90 per cent effective – claims supported by peer-reviewed interim findings from an advanced clinical trial that were published in the Lancet medical journal this month.
The EU has admitted making mistakes with the planning, approval process and rollout of its own vaccine programme, but insists it is now on track and should be able to deliver inoculations to 70 per cent of adults in the bloc by autumn.
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German chancellor Angela Merkel has said that all Covid-19 vaccines would be “welcome” in the EU once they receive approval from the bloc, and she has spoken to Russian president Vladimir Putin about how her country’s experts could advise Sputnik V’s developers on navigating the EMA application process.
The EMA said on February 10th that it had “not received an application for a rolling review or a marketing authorisation for the Covid-19 Sputnik V vaccine, despite reports stating the opposite”.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business...try-to-use-russia-s-sputnik-vaccine-1.4484578
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The dumbest possible reasoning for what otherwise is an understandable move...
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Doesn't matter how many vaccines you makes available, some people wont get it or will be very hesitant to. Can't completely blame them as this is an experimental vaccine that isn't even approved by the FDA. All signs seem to show that there aren't horrible side effects, but it's still early. Worst cause it's only moderately effective.
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You're not familiar with Magyar arrogance I see. Lol.
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I am familiar with Magyar dentists
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Who? Bald?
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Wow, that's horrible.
There's no news on whether Pfizer tried to price-gouge us like BioNTech in Europe though, as the price negotiation between Pfizer and the Trump administration went pretty swiftly for that initial 100 Million doses for $1.95 Billion. Even during negotiation, the Pfizer prices being floated in U.S press reports back then never exceeds $20/dose, which turns out to be accurate.
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As previously reported in the U.S Vaccines thread, Israel is in talk with both Pfizer and Moderna to manufacture their vaccines there, and the Austrians and Danish wants in on this.
Austria and Denmark eye alliance with Israel on coronavirus vaccines
Austrian chancellor says his country and Denmark no longer want to be ‘only’ dependent on the EU for vaccines.
BY JILLIAN DEUTSCH | March 1, 202
Israel is to hold talks with Austria and Denmark on teaming up to manufacture coronavirus vaccines, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Monday.
Austria’s Chancellor Sebastian Kurz and Denmark’s Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen plan to visit Israel on Thursday to discuss “an international corporation for manufacturing vaccines,” Netanyahu was quoted by Reuters as saying.
The Austrian and Danish leaders’ move is the latest blow to the EU’s vaccination strategy, coming the same day that Poland asked China for vaccines and Slovakia ordered 2 million doses of Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine, and only a day after Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán received his first dose of the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine, which has not been approved by the European Medicines Agency.
Kurz told German news site Bild that Austria and Denmark no longer want to “only” be dependent on the EU for vaccines, citing the bloc’s manufacturing issues and the EMA’s slow approval process.
“We agreed in the summer that vaccines from the EU for the member states would be procured in good time and approved quickly,” Kurz said. “Although this approach was fundamentally correct, the EMA is too slow in approving vaccines and there are delivery bottlenecks from pharmaceutical companies.”
Frederiksen was more careful at a news conference Monday, saying the talks with Israel did not mean a lack of confidence in the EU, but adding that countries needed to do everything they could to boost vaccine production.
“We may well be in a situation where we not only have to vaccinate, but also revaccinate, maybe once a year … That’s why we need to boost vaccine production sharply,” Frederiksen said, according to the Financial Times.
The FT also said the leaders are discussing creating stockpiles of vaccines, citing officials in Austria and Copenhagen.
The European Commission was not able to immediately comment.
https://www.politico.eu/article/aus...-production-israel-eu-benjamin-netanyahu/amp/
Austria and Denmark eye alliance with Israel on coronavirus vaccines
Austrian chancellor says his country and Denmark no longer want to be ‘only’ dependent on the EU for vaccines.
BY JILLIAN DEUTSCH | March 1, 202
Israel is to hold talks with Austria and Denmark on teaming up to manufacture coronavirus vaccines, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Monday.
Austria’s Chancellor Sebastian Kurz and Denmark’s Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen plan to visit Israel on Thursday to discuss “an international corporation for manufacturing vaccines,” Netanyahu was quoted by Reuters as saying.
The Austrian and Danish leaders’ move is the latest blow to the EU’s vaccination strategy, coming the same day that Poland asked China for vaccines and Slovakia ordered 2 million doses of Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine, and only a day after Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán received his first dose of the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine, which has not been approved by the European Medicines Agency.
Kurz told German news site Bild that Austria and Denmark no longer want to “only” be dependent on the EU for vaccines, citing the bloc’s manufacturing issues and the EMA’s slow approval process.
“We agreed in the summer that vaccines from the EU for the member states would be procured in good time and approved quickly,” Kurz said. “Although this approach was fundamentally correct, the EMA is too slow in approving vaccines and there are delivery bottlenecks from pharmaceutical companies.”
Frederiksen was more careful at a news conference Monday, saying the talks with Israel did not mean a lack of confidence in the EU, but adding that countries needed to do everything they could to boost vaccine production.
“We may well be in a situation where we not only have to vaccinate, but also revaccinate, maybe once a year … That’s why we need to boost vaccine production sharply,” Frederiksen said, according to the Financial Times.
The FT also said the leaders are discussing creating stockpiles of vaccines, citing officials in Austria and Copenhagen.
The European Commission was not able to immediately comment.
https://www.politico.eu/article/aus...-production-israel-eu-benjamin-netanyahu/amp/
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