Coronavirus megathread vdo you have a pretty mask?

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  1. SugarKrok Brown Belt

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    You don’t believe that for real do you?
    Do you mean the virus spreading or the lockdowns? Because I’ve been told the vaccine doesn’t prevent infection.


    @fingercuffs I think N99 mask are basically sure fire protection. If you could get ya hands on one of those your worries could be availed.
     
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  2. fingercuffs Bills Mafia Platinum Member

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    I need to get all my records from my previous doctors first which will probably take a while. I'll ask where it's located in relation to the ICU, but I think I'm just going to do it. If nothing it will put my mind at risk. Just have to have a good shower when I get home, I've got a couple of KN95s which are pretty effective, I just don't like them because they tickle my eyelashes when I speak, and sanitize my hands and body before if I leave.
     
  3. buffpants22 one has to die several times while still alive.

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  4. fingercuffs Bills Mafia Platinum Member

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    Lol, a girl can dream.
     
  5. Nimrod Wistfull With A Fist-Full

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    Dr. Martin received his undergraduate (BA) from Goshen College, his Masters of Science from Ball State University, and his Doctorate (PhD) from the University of Virginia.

    Dr. David Martin founded M·CAM® in 1998 and has served as its CEO and Chairman since that time. M·CAM® has been an international intangible asset underwriter and analyst firm spanning work in innovation finance, trade, and intangible asset finance.
    https://www.m-cam.com/

    This is what he has to say about the vaccine ..

    " Let’s make sure we are clear… This is not a vaccine. They are using the term “vaccine” to sneak this thing under public health exemptions. This is not a vaccine."
    "This is mRNA packaged in a fat envelope that is delivered to a cell. It is a medical device designed to stimulate the human cell into becoming a pathogen creator. It is not a vaccine. Vaccines actually are a legally defined term under public health law; they are a legally defined term under CDC and FDA standards.[1] And the vaccine specifically has to stimulate both the immunity within the person receiving it and it also has to disrupt transmission.
    And that is not what this is.
    They (Moderna and Pfizer) have been abundantly clear in saying that the mRNA strand that is going into the cell is not to stop the transmission, it is a treatment. But if it was discussed as a treatment, it would not get the sympathetic ear of public health authorities because then people would say, “What other treatments are there?”
    The use of the term vaccine is unconscionable for both the legal definition and also it is actually the sucker punch to open and free discourse… Moderna was started as a chemotherapy company for cancer, not a vaccine manufacturer for SARSCOV2. If we said we are going to give people prophylactic chemotherapy for the cancer they don’t yet have, we’d be laughed out of the room because it’s a stupid idea. That’s exactly what this is. This is a mechanical device in the form of a very small package of technology that is being inserted into the human system to activate the cell to become a pathogen manufacturing site.
    And I refuse to stipulate in any conversations that this is in fact a vaccine issue. The only reason why the term is being used is to abuse the 1905 Jacobson case that has been misrepresented since it was written. And if we were honest with this, we would actually call it what it is: it is a chemical pathogen device that is actually meant to unleash a chemical pathogen production action within a cell. It is a medical device, not a drug because it meets the CDRH definition of a device. It is not a living system, it is not a biologic system, it is a physical technology - it happens to just come in the size of a molecular package.
    So, we need to be really clear on making sure we don’t fall for their game. Because their game is if we talk about it as a vaccine then we are going to get into a vaccine conversation but this is not, by their own admission, a vaccine. As a result it must be clear to everyone listening that we will not fall for this failed definition just like we will not fall for their industrial chemical definition of health. Both of them are functionally flawed and are an implicit violation of the legal construct that is being exploited. I get frustrated when I hear activists and lawyers say, “we are going to fight the vaccine”. If you stipulate it’s a vaccine you’ve already lost the battle. It’s not a vaccine. It is made to make you sick.
    80% of the people exposed to SARSCOV2 are asymptomatic carriers. 80% of people who get this injected into them experience a clinical adverse event. You are getting injected with a chemical substance to induce illness, not to induce an immuno-transmissive response. In other words, nothing about this is going to stop you from transmitting anything. This is about getting you sick and having your own cells be the thing that get you sick.
    When the paymaster for the distribution of information happens to be the industry that’s doing the distributing, we lose. Because the only narrative is the one that will be compensated by the people writing the check. That goes for our politicians… and our media - it has been paid for - if you follow the money you realize there is no non-conflicted voice on any network."
    - Dr. David Martin, Jan 5th 2021,

    Thoughts?
     
  6. Phlog Dad Belt

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    All of it man, even as the corner is turned everything will be on lock still.
     
  7. PhitePhan Purple Belt

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    Interesting point regarding definition as a medical device rather than a vaccine. I wonder if any of our medically knowledgeable sherbros can help clarify this assertion?
     
  8. SugarKrok Brown Belt

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    I’ve had the same family doctor for 20 years so maybe this can’t work for ya, but you could maybe send someone by proxy. Not ya husband, since who you live with going defeats the point.

    Call the department the day of and you could FaceTime whoever you send. My mom says if one person has done or tried something others have. She sent those porter guys’ve or people who have accompanied her during trips when I can’t go.

    They’d maybe be more understanding too because COVID and it is Legit dangerous as fuck to the high risk I.E. You.

    At here end of the day though, I doubt you’d get anything from covid. Even if you got lung problems or wtv, I am pretty sure you’re not an old lady. You’ll be alright and won’t even catch it. Believe.
     
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  9. SugarKrok Brown Belt

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    I think people will start a petition or massively protest, if like half the populace isn’t vaccinated and “icu isn’t at capacity” and they’re still doing lockdowns.
     
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  10. Dirt Road Soldier All Praise To The Gun!

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    They re-clarified at work today that even though we are essential workers and are in line to be among the first to get the vaccine, they aren't going to be making it mandatory for anyone as all their precautions will be staying in place even if they get 100% of employees vaccinated regardless.

    Nice to know I have a choice at least, I can let everyone else be the test subjects.
     
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  11. Nimrod Wistfull With A Fist-Full

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    Might be an idea to sit it out.. until we know how this thing is going to kill us..

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommyb...re-refusing-covid-19-vaccine/?sh=495d56eb3c96

    Even frontline workers on mass are refusing it.. thats a worry.
     
  12. fingercuffs Bills Mafia Platinum Member

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    Cheers. Good idea. :) I'm wondering if they could send them digitally. I have a folder jam packed with various tests and procedures etc.

    I gave up worrying about getting it months ago. I do what I can to be careful, if I get it it won't be through a fault of my own, bit scary having to go to the place where the outbreak's happened though.
     
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  13. aerius Silver Belt

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    That's because they CAN'T make it mandatory. The vaccines are authorized for use in the US under an Emergency Use Authorization act, and when you go through the legal agreements there's a clause in there which states that a right of refusal must be provided. If they tried to make it mandatory you can sue the fuck out of them, and it also blows up the entire EUA if you push it far enough which means the vaccines will no longer be legal for human use in the US.
     
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  14. The_Renaissance Sherdog Bunceweight Champion

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    The UK government has just brought in that rule of having to produce a pre-boarding negative covid test before flying into the UK. The smallprint is very interesting. This also applies to anyone who has had the covid vaccine.

    That is VERY telling indeed.

    So much for having faith in the vaccine, eh? When the government themselves do not consider the vaccine protection against covid (despite saying they do, publicly, repeatedly)........what exactly is the point in this vaccine, altogether?
     
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  15. Nimrod Wistfull With A Fist-Full

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    Not only that but you cant use the free NHS tests.. I have a mate whos trying to get work in Oman, the airline will only let you use their test.. and he has to have 3 of them at 150 quid a pop.. ouch.. money money money..
     
  16. Hellowhosthat Gold Belt

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    I don't think that says anything really to be honest bud, if the vaccine claimed to be 100% effective then sure, but if it's 90% effective then that means 1 in every 10 people could still have it, so it makes sense they'd still want a negative test.
     
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    And your avatar.
     
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  18. Phlog Dad Belt

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    There are 60 different vaccines people could have taken, all lacking longitudinal data, we don't know the efficacy of all yet.

    Then there is the possibility that the person is infected with a new strain that is not effected by the current round of vaccines.

    That's just two ideas off the top of this dummies head, and that's assuming the policy is based on sense.

    I imagine there are many more reasonable reasons for the policy that neither you or I, dummies that we obviously are, cannot think of.

    So is it telling of government trust in vaccines being able to fight the strains their developed for or is it telling of your lack of imagination?

    Maybe motivated reasoning rather than a lack of imagination?
     
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  19. The_Renaissance Sherdog Bunceweight Champion

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    That's another one. No country is accepting the NHS tests, probably because they're shitty, mass-produced, cheap shit that's intended for extreme mass use and probably has a high chance of cross contamination and/or false positives and false negatives. The private tests are likely to be more accurate and less chance of nonsense occurring. Problem is, our daily cases are based upon these mass NHS tests - I've been saying for ages, we could be having 100k positives a day or 5k, I simply don't trust these NHS tests. I'd much rather pay the money for a private one than rely upon the cheap mass testing.
     
  20. Nimrod Wistfull With A Fist-Full

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    He is having to pay for one now, one 24hrs before his flight and one when he lands.. 450£ boom.. thank you .. then he has to pay for 10 nights quarantine in a hotel @80£ a night.. so he is downm1250£ before he starts earning.. his flight is covered though..
     

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