International Coronavirus Breaking News, v13: Over 21,000 Healthcare Workers From Around The U.S Heading To N.Y

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Terrible story I just found out from my doctor friends.

So we all know hospitals run at a razor thin margin. Without high profit procedures like orthopedic surgeries, they are running out of funds to even PAY doctors. The stimulus bill doesn’t address this at all.
Too bad the government only cares about bailing out a Wall St
 
A few hours they said

Muster every second of every day since Wednesday
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Ok, maybe I hit F5 a few times but don't pretend I was alone in that pursuit.
 
When we reach cases where the virus is as strong as Ginyu himself in power level, we will feel it. Life will get real, and every day will remind us of our mortality.
 
The Neil Ferguson guy who was a doomer from the beginning (and who also caught kung flu) has revised his projections in a bigly way. He is now a bloomer (like me) and says it won't be anywhere near as bad as his early projections suggested, now he thinks less than 20k people will die in the UK which is in line with the official Wadtucket prediction of 200k-400k worldwide deaths:

Epidemiologist Behind Highly-Cited Coronavirus Model Drastically Downgrades Projection

Epidemiologist Neil Ferguson, who created the highly-cited Imperial College London coronavirus model, which has been cited by organizations like The New York Times and has been instrumental in governmental policy decision-making, offered a massively downgraded projection of the potential deathtoll on Wednesday.


Ferguson’s model projected 2.2 million dead people in the United States and 500,000 in the U.K. from COVID-19 if no action were taken to slow the virus and blunt its curve. The model predicted far fewer deaths if lockdown measures — measures such as those taken by the British and American governments — were undertaken.

After just one day of ordered lockdowns in the U.K., Ferguson is presenting drastically downgraded estimates, crediting lockdown measures, but also revealing that far more people likely have the virus than his team figured.

Ferguson explained, “I should admit, we’ve always been sensitive in the analysis in the modeling to a variety of levels or values to those quantities. What we’ve been seeing, though, in Europe in the last week or two is a rate of growth of the epidemic which was faster than we expected from early data in China. And so we are revising our quotes, our central best estimate of the reproduction… something more, a little bit above of the order of three or a little bit above rather than about 2.5.” He added, “the current values are still within the wide range of values which modeling groups [unintelligible] we should have been looking at previously.”

A higher rate of transmission than expected means that more people have the virus than previously expected; when the number of those with coronavirus is divided by the number of deaths, therefore, the mortality rate for the disease drops.


Based on both those revised estimates and the lockdown measures taken by the British government, the epidemiologist predicts, hospitals will be just fine taking on COVID-19 patients and estimates 20,000 or far fewer people will die from the virus itself or from its agitation of other ailments, as reported by New Scientist Wednesday.



https://www.dailywire.com/news/epid...admits-he-was-wrong-drastically-revises-model
 
I cant begin to explain how much I missed y'all and this thread. I was having rona withdrawal
 
Hey guys I'm back but this time at 25% reduced hours because of slow business
 
Hey guys I'm back but this time at 25% reduced hours because of slow business

Let me know when you are out of work. I will provide for you and your family....
 
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-pandemic-coming-new-orleans/608821/

Watch New Orleans
Vann R. Newkirk II


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With the country’s attention turned north, the coronavirus pandemic is exploding in Louisiana.

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    Between the time this sentence was written and the time this article is published, hundreds more Americans will likely have died from COVID-19. Hundreds or perhaps thousands more people will have been hospitalized, and certainly tens of thousands more will have tested positive for the coronavirus. At this point, making predictions about the pandemic is like riding a barrel over Niagara Falls: We can only guess how it ends, but we do know things are going down.



    Here’s another prediction that’s safe to make: The city of New Orleans—and, potentially, all of Louisiana—is going to become the next front in the fight against the pandemic. Even as national attention is justifiably focused on the aggressive outbreak in Washington State and the mounting pressures on New York City’s hospitals, the virus’s advance in Louisiana has shaken local officials and doctors, and the state is already approaching a similar burden of infections and deaths as the crises to the north. There’s good reason to believe that this southern outbreak will be even more difficult to contain, and is perhaps a better harbinger of what’s to come as the pandemic spreads across the country.

    The numbers already indicate that Louisiana is a global epicenter of the pandemic. Just over 1 percent of the U.S. population lives in Louisiana. But according to the COVID Tracking Project, 7 percent of all COVID-19 deaths, 7 percent of all hospitalizations, and 3 percent of all positive tests have been in the state. New York has suffered about two deaths per 100,000 residents. Louisiana is at 1.8.



    Read: Red and Blue America aren’t experiencing the same pandemic

    To put the numbers into perspective, if Louisiana were a country, its death count would put it in the top 15 globally. The burden appears to be increasing so quickly that all of these statistics will become quickly out of date. The state reported 83 total deaths from COVID-19 as of noon yesterday. It had reported 34 as of Monday. And, as is the nature of this virus, most of the reported data represent only a snapshot of the infections that took place a week or two ago. Hospitalizations and deaths will increase. And, if other outbreaks around the world are any example, the curve will not rise gently. The fallout in Louisiana will be most painful in the New Orleans metropolitan area, whose Orleans and Jefferson Parishes account for two-thirds of all cases in the state.


    Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards has already declared a state of emergency. In a press conference on Wednesday, he said that, despite the official numbers, he’s certain that all parishes in the state have coronavirus cases. He asked citizens to continue to stay home and follow state guidelines on slowing the spread of the virus. Like New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, Edwards also warned of a critical shortage of ventilators in the hospitals that will soon be hit with waves of COVID-19 patients. “We could potentially run out of vents in the New Orleans area in the first week in April,” Edwards said. According to state data, a third of all people hospitalized because of the virus so far have required ventilators.


    Local officials in New Orleans have made even more dire pronouncements. “We are preparing to mobilize in a way that many of us have never seen,” said Collin Arnold, the city’s homeland-security director, in a separate press conference Wednesday. “This is a disaster that will define us for generations.” New Orleans Mayor LaToya Cantrell said the same day that the city expects hospital beds to fill within two weeks, and she authorized the use of the Morial Convention Center as an overflow site.

    Physicians and other health professionals in the city already seem close to being overwhelmed. In a tweet on Wednesday, the former state secretary of health, Rebekah Gee, referenced stories of people reusing protective gear or ordering it from eBay. Joshua Denson, a pulmonary and critical-care physician at Tulane Medical Center and University Medical Center New Orleans, diagnosed the second confirmed case of coronavirus in the city. Now he’s currently under self-quarantine as he awaits the results of his own test for the virus. “I'm not the only one of our critical-care doctors who is on quarantine or sick right now,” Denson told me. “The big point is: If you lose one or two, it’s a big deal. This isn’t a place that’s just swimming with available options.”



    According to Denson, problems particular to Louisiana might make an outbreak there worse than what other parts of the U.S. have seen. The state has one of the highest poverty rates in the country, and with that burden comes health disparities—including the kinds of conditions that appear to put people at risk for serious complications from the coronavirus. Louisiana is one of the youngest states in the country, which would seem to suggest its residents would have better outcomes, given that older people have so far been the most vulnerable to the outbreak. But about 43 percent of its adult population falls into “at risk” categories, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. A sizable number of young adults in the state have preexisting conditions.
 
https://globalnews.ca/news/6743979/condom-shortage-coronavirus/

COVID-19: World’s biggest condom producer warns of global shortage
By Liz Lee Reuters
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WATCH: Coronavirus outbreak - World faces condom shortfall due to COVID-19

A global shortage of condoms is looming, the world’s biggest producer said, after a coronavirus lockdown forced it to shut down production.

Malaysia’s Karex Bhd makes one in every five condoms globally. It has not produced a single condom from its three Malaysian factories for more than a week due to a lockdown imposed by the government to halt the spread of the virus.

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That’s already a shortfall of 100 million condoms, normally marketed internationally by brands such as Durex, supplied to state healthcare systems such as Britain’s NHS or distributed by aid programs such as the UN Population Fund.

This is something that is of great concern!
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Punjabi justice?

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Coronavirus: final testing of Hong Kong dog's blood concludes it was infected
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Final testing has confirmed that the 17-year-old Pomeranian revealed as the first dog to catch the coronavirus was infected, Hong Kong's animal welfare authority said, after antibodies were found in the animal's blood.

Despite the conclusive positive reading, an Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department (AFCD) spokesman stressed that cases of infection in dogs appeared "infrequent", with most of the city's quarantined animals testing negative.

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/world/2020/03/672_286911.html
 
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/cana...h-the-window-of-this-bc-care-home/ar-BB11OzNG

She’s 95. He’s 102. Their love still shines through the window of this B.C. care home
The Times Colonist 2 hrs ago
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Hilda Duddridge made a promise to her husband of nearly 75 years and she won’t let the COVID-19 pandemic get in the way.

“I said I’d look after him until the day he died,” said Hilda, 95.

When Lew Duddridge moved into a care home two years ago after turning 100, Hilda kept her promise with daily visits. After she tucks him in at night, she tells Lew she’ll be back to see him the next day.

On March 16, the care home banned all visitors in an attempt to protect vulnerable residents from COVID-19.

That’s not stopping Hilda from making the trip from their Langford condo to the care home in Victoria to see Lew.

She climbs 18 steps to a second-floor balcony, where Lew meets her at the window.

With Lew on the phone inside and Hilda on the other end outside, it’s just like having a visit together, Hilda said.

His face lights up when she shows him his favourite chocolates, which she puts by the door for staff to collect when she leaves.

“He was smiling and blew kisses,” she said. “I couldn’t imagine how in the world I could not see him.”

To Hilda, their new routine shows that everyone is adaptable and that attitude — and love — is everything.

“It just proves that we can get through anything, if you have patience and look on the bright side,” she said, adding, “Love is the answer to everything. Love makes the world go ’round.”

As a war bride from Wales who moved to Lew’s small Prairie town, far from her family and the ocean she loved, Hilda knows something about adapting.

The two met on a train platform in October 1944 in England during an air raid and a blackout.

Lew asked to carry Hilda’s suitcase. She was impressed by his uniform. The next day he showed up for a date, and a week later he proposed.

They married a few months later, before Lew was redeployed to Japan. When the war ended, Hilda boarded a boat with their baby daughter and sailed to Canada to reunite with her husband.

She arrived at her new home in Hanley, Sask., where they had an outdoor toilet, dirt roads and no running water.

“It was a bit of a shock, but you adapt. You make the best of it,” she said. “He made life exciting.”

The couple raised four children, and when their nest emptied, they went on adventures around the world. Lew was a pilot and flew the two of them around the continent, from Victoria to Central America and back, on an eight-month adventure.

“They’re a team,” said daughter Glenys Berry. She’s proud of her mother’s attitude that “love will keep us all going,” and of her father for being the kind of person who gets things done.

Like his wife, Lew, had to adapt to difficult situations during his long life. A year after he was born, both of his parents caught the Spanish Flu and Lew was sent to live with an uncle until they recovered. When his family lost their house during the Depression, he hopped a train to find work and send money home to his parents. Then he enlisted in the Royal Canadian Air Force and went to war.

The family had planned a party to celebrate Hilda and Lew’s 75th wedding anniversary next week, but they’ve had to adapt to the times.

When April 2 rolls around, Hilda will climb the steps outside and go to the window to see Lew, separated by glass.

She knows it’s only temporary.

“Things will get better, if we’re patient,” Hilda said. “It will be lovely again to go and see him.”
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So guys how much worse do you see this becoming in the USA? Here in Pigeon forge Tennessee they finally shut down bars and Restaurants are take out and delivery only, they shut down the national park a few days ago but there are still some shops and attractions open and tourist keep coming.
 
Aparently Queen Elizabeth tested positive. UPDATE: The jounarlist aparently made a MISTAKE and this story is not true or at least not confirmed yet...

Source: globo news the biggest tv news source here in Brasil.
 
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Glad we're all back! I've been scouring Canadian, American and British newsites on a daily basis the past two months on all things Corona but Sherdog is still my primary source.

As of today there are 993 cases in Ontario, 60 of which are hospitalized including 32 who are on ventilators: https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5512014

6% of infected cases requiring hospitalization is still worrying. We're also getting near daily reports of retail workers in supermarkets and liquor stores in and around Toronto being infected. Employees at Tim Hortons, LCBO (Ontario's government-run liquor shops), Longo's supermarket and several bus drivers in the GTA have all been reported infected the past week.
 
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So guys how much worse do you see this becoming in the USA? Here in Pigeon forge Tennessee they finally shut down bars and Restaurants are take out and delivery only, they shut down the national park a few days ago but there are still some shops and attractions open and tourist keep coming.
Plan on 30 days of that, seems to be the pattern so far. Then some folks getting back to work, at which point it will necessarily spike and then abate and go away. No worries except for our elderly loved ones, especially those in hospitals or nursing homes. Also, anyone say 50/60 or up that has underlying conditions like bad asthma, heart disease, diabetes and smokers have an increased mortality rate as well. We'll get through this just fine.
 
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...onavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive

Mystery In Wuhan: Recovered Coronavirus Patients Test Negative ... Then Positive
Emily Feng and Amy Cheng


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A spate of mysterious second-time infections is calling into question the accuracy of COVID-19 diagnostic tools even as China prepares to lift quarantine measures to allow residents to leave the epicenter of its outbreak next month. It's also raising concerns of a possible second wave of cases.

From March 18-22, the Chinese city of Wuhan reported no new cases of the virus through domestic transmission — that is, infection passed on from one person to another. The achievement was seen as a turning point in efforts to contain the virus, which has infected more than 80,000 people in China. Wuhan was particularly hard-hit, with more than half of all confirmed cases in the country.

But some Wuhan residents who had tested positive earlier and then recovered from the disease are testing positive for the virus a second time. Based on data from several quarantine facilities in the city, which house patients for further observation after their discharge from hospitals, about 5%-10% of patients pronounced "recovered" have tested positive again.

Some of those who retested positive appear to be asymptomatic carriers — those who carry the virus and are possibly infectious but do not exhibit any of the illness's associated symptoms — suggesting that the outbreak in Wuhan is not close to being over.


NPR has spoken by phone or exchanged text messages with four individuals in Wuhan who are part of this group of individuals testing positive a second time in March. All four said they had been sickened with the virus and tested positive, then were released from medical care in recent weeks after their condition improved and they tested negative.

Two of them are front-line doctors who were sickened after treating patients in their Wuhan hospitals. The other two are Wuhan residents. They all requested anonymity when speaking with NPR because those who have challenged the government's handling of the outbreak have been detained.

One of the Wuhan residents who spoke to NPR exhibited severe symptoms during their first round of illness and was eventually hospitalized. The second resident displayed only mild symptoms at firstand was quarantined in one of more than a dozen makeshift treatment centers erected in Wuhan during the peak of the outbreak.

But when both were tested a second time for the coronavirus on Sunday, March 22, as a precondition for seeking medical care for unrelated health issues, they tested positive for the coronavirus even though they exhibited none of the typical symptoms, such as a fever or dry cough. The time from their recovery and release to the retest ranged from a few days to a few weeks.

Could that second positive test mean a second round of infection? Virologists think it is unlikely that a COVID-19 patient could be re-infected so quickly after recovery but caution that it is too soon to know.

Under its newest COVID-19 prevention guidelines, China does not include in its overall daily count for total and for new cases those who retest positive after being released from medical care. China also does not include asymptomatic cases in case counts.

"I have no idea why the authorities choose not to count [asymptomatic] cases in the official case count. I am baffled," said one of the Wuhan doctors who had a second positive test after recovering.

These four people are now being isolated under medical observation. It is unclear whether they are infectious and why they tested positive after their earlier negative test.

It is possible they were first given a false negative test result, which can happen if the swab used to collect samples of the virus misses bits of the virus. Dr. Li Wenliang, a whistleblowing doctor who later died of the virus himself in February, tested negative for the coronavirus several times before being accurately diagnosed.

In February, Wang Chen, a director at the state-run Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences, estimated that the nucleic acid tests used in China were accurate at identifying positive cases of the coronavirus only 30%-50% of the time.

Another theory is that, because the test amplifies tiny bits of DNA, residual virus from the initial infection could have falsely resulted in that second positive reading.

"There are false positives with these types of tests," Dr. Jeffrey Shaman, a professor of environmental health sciences at Columbia University, told NPR by email. Shaman recently co-authored a modeling study showing that transmission by individuals who did not exhibit any symptoms was a driver of the Wuhan outbreak.

How real is China's recovery?

On Tuesday, Hubei province, where Wuhan is the capital, said it would relax lockdown measures that have now been in place for more than two months and begin letting residents leave cities the following day. Wuhan said it would begin lifting its quarantine measures and letting residents leave two weeks later, on April 8.

To leave Wuhan, residents must first test negative for the coronavirus, according to municipal authorities. Such screenings will identify some remaining asymptomatic virus carriers. But the high rate of false negatives that Chinese doctors have cited means many with the virus could pass undetected.

Last Thursday, Wuhan reported for the first time since the outbreak began that it had no new cases of the virus from the day before — a milestone in China's virus containment efforts. The city reported a zero rise in new cases for the following four days.

Assessing asymptomatic carriers

But Caixin, an independent Chinese news outlet, reported earlier this week that Wuhan hospitals were continuing to see new cases of asymptomatic virus carriers, citing a health official who said he had seen up to a dozen such cases a day.

Responding to inquiries about how the city was counting asymptomatic cases, Wuhan's health commission said Monday that it is quarantining new asymptomatic patients in specialized wards for 14 days. Such patients would be included in new daily case counts if they develop symptoms during that time, authorities said.

"Based on available World Health Organization data, new infections are mainly transmitted by patients who have developed symptoms. Hence [asymptomatic cases] may not be the main source of transmission," the commission said.

A researcher at China's health commission told reporters Tuesday that asymptomatic carriers "would not cause the spread" of the virus. Zunyou Wu, the researcher, explained this was because the authorities were isolating people who had close contact with confirmed patients. Wu did not explain how they would identify asymptomatic carriers who had no close contact with confirmed patients.

Addressing growing public concern of asymptomatic patients, China's Premier Li Keqiang urged during Thursday's senior-level government meeting that "relevant departments must ... truthfully, timely, and openly" answer questions, such as whether these patients are infectious and how the course of the outbreak may change.

Research suggests that the spread can be caused by asymptomatic carriers. Studies of patients from Wuhan and other Chinese cities who were diagnosed early in the outbreak suggest that asymptomatic carriers of the virus can infect those they have close contact with, such as family members.

"In terms of those who retested positive, the official party line is that they have not been proven to be infectious. That is not the same as saying they are not infectious," one of the Wuhan doctors who tested positive twice told NPR. He is now isolated and under medical observation. "If they really are not infectious," the doctor said, "then there would be no need to take them back to the hospitals again."

Whatever the case, China is full of shit!
 
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