I'm not sure I see any "concerns" that can be helped being pointed out by people? The stories on here seem to be "wah wah wah I got pulled over for doing something illegal and the cop was mean to me that power hungry prick."
I think the main concern YOU should be focused about on this forum is the piss poor training most (probably ALL) cops receive for physical self defense. I've spent probably 200 hours training bullshit wrist locks that don't work on actively resisting people. Like I said: when cops start losing they need to escalate the situation. They cannot lose. So, let's make a big thread in a grappling forum to chase all the cops away that may have thought about getting actual useful training. No hesitant cop that reads a thread like this will ever give it a chance in a legit school.
It's a HUGE ego check to even commit to this kind of training. Most normal males can't deal with it, let alone someone who's been trained to think their "training" is everything they need. Almost every defensive thing I've personally learned in official training is completely useless in a real fight, and that's why people like us need to encourage police officers to train outside work.
In reality any average size white belt at my school could defeat most of the people I work with in a physical confrontation. I would also say that most of the people I work with are completely ignorant of that fact. Most of the people on here watch the video of Eric Garner's death and know they could have done it a better way. Places like this need to have a positive environment if you really care to change the way things are.
there's just a lot wrong here. a lot.
first, the thought that there is no benefit to discussion and awareness fits right in with the standard police attitude of complete lack of transparency. nothing to see here, move along.
second, your "this is all wah wah wah" is neither helpful, nor accurate. people are talking about a wide range of experiences, ranging from getting pulled over or stop/frisked for no reason to unarmed civilians getting killed. your version is, people crying because they did something illegal and didn't like the cop's attitude. if only it were that simple. your attitude perpetuates the monstrous divide between LEO and the communities they have sworn to serve and protect. it is no different than the "don't break the law and you won't have problems with cops" argument. accurate on the surface, child-like in it's stupidity when you look at the real world.
third, i agree that most police training seems to be shit. clearly, officers have no confidence in it, because they go straight to the glock. so where is the outrage on the part of police officers that they are so poorly trained? you'd complain about a shitty vest or cop car, so why not this? i'm guessing it's simply some long-standing contractors, maybe retired cops, that keep teaching the same bullshit seminars to LEO folks, year after year. how cozy. i hope you realize that citizens have no direct way to demand accountability and better practices for something like this; police departments do whatever they want in terms of equipment and training.
fourth, i do think most white belts could defeat most cops in a fight. there's something seriously wrong with the physical standards. why are firefighters generally in so much better shape? why do so many police officers panic so quickly? where is that part of their training?
finally, i don't think learning to grapple is a HUGE ego check. it's a minor one for a well-adjusted person. perhaps it's too much of an ego check for your average cop because they just can't handle ego checks of any size.
note that i am not anti-cop. i like most cops. i train with cops. i have a judo instructor at my school that says the same things as you regarding training of cops: it's all bullshit krav maga and they only get a few hours a year. needs to be fixed. police chief is not an elected position.
