Discussion in 'Worldwide MMA Discussion' started by Koro, Jan 27, 2020.
she would kill Floyd
Cool pic I guess.
Does not really mean as much as these pics
Everyone has loses, what is your point? Not relevant. Just hating?
Not hating. Just making the argument that Ko'ing Cyborg is more impressive than Ko'ing Julia Budd. You are welcome to disagree.
Agreed. Haha, I didn't see "WGOAT" and now, for the first time in history on sherdog, I will admit I was wrong. And I agree, Amanda is the GOAT.
She only beat a standing champ for one of those titles. All others were vacant, and two of them she beat up a bantamweight.
On Sherdog everyone is a goat until they get beat
Non sequitur. Her 4 different belts are arguably more impressive. That's the argument you should have addressed.
I think she is still the GOAT. Amanda will likely surpass her, but not yet, too soon.
She never will be WMMA GOAT. Never.
Amanda has beaten more former champions than Cyborg has even fought legitimate competition.
let’s take out that Cyborg got MURKED by Amanda. Let’s not even count that.
quality of wins and depth of division should play a factor and while 135 isn’t the most stacked... 145 is a barren wasteland where 95% of the girls who fight 145 are really 135 and 125lbers who just don’t wanna cut weight.
Gina (quit mma the second she wasn’t winning)
Marloes Coenen 2X
Holly Holm (boring decision)
Some may consider Budd to be a good one, I do not.
that is IT.... that is all she has. That’s GOAT? Fighting in essentially the super heavyweight division of women’s mma??
***If there was a dominant super heavyweight.....
Would we praise him for fighting mostly undersized heavyweights? If a super heavyweight chose to take Mexican supplements and lift weights, would we feel bad for him for “not being able to make weight”? If a heavyweight moved up and MURKED that super heavyweight.... would we still call that SHW the GOAT?
The answer is hard no. So why is Cyborg any different?? Yes, she captured a title against lesser competition after an immediate title shot in a barren division... so what???
now let’s add up Amanda’s most impressive wins.
Amanda has more losses, yes, but the same people making this argument, support Anderson Silva as GOAT despite losses to nobodies.
Holly by headkick KO in the first.
Ronda via mollywhopping
Tate via domination to RNC.
Val 2X by decision.
Cris Cyborg herself via Utter Destruction.
How about common opponents?
Arguably, Cyborg’s highest ranked win was over a 135er in Holly. She decisioned her, Amanda smashed her.
Vanessa Porto- Cyborg by decision; Amanda finished her via TKO by corner stoppage. Cyborg was Porto’s 5th fight and Nunes was her 14th.
Budd got fucked up by both. Amanda caught her in 14 seconds when she was green, Cyborg won the other night, that’s a wash.
Cyborg left the UFC to fight in an even more barren 145lb division.
I really cannot reiterate enough that when someone takes Mexican supplements AND heavily lifts weights... then I do NOT feel bad for them if they can’t make weight. I get it, you don’t like Amanda... but the writing is on the wall.
I don’t blame Cyborg for wanting to get paid more money to fight much lesser competition... but that is blasphemy to say she has a better all-time status when she has less top wins, fights in a much, much thinner division and even got toasted at that weightclass by Amanda.
UFC Double Champ in two weightclasses
4 promotion champ in divisions catered to her
Case closed and it has been for awhile.
EDIT: why am I not making threads. Idfk
Well, your username fits. haha
I agree with most, but Gina didn't quit because she lost. Listen to her interview on Ariel, you casual.
lololol I know it’s not the only reason. I troll Gina fans for her overrated ranking in their mind
She did quit in that fight and give up a great position
I watched the Gina vs Cyborg again recently, I totally forgot how well Gina did. In my memory she got dominated, but actually she had mount and was doing ok at times.
Zoom out! "not the face, not the face!"
Amanda is the goat and wins 10 out of 10 times! No matter what Coker wants to think!
She should have one hanging around her dick - Joe Rogan
That's an awesome pic. Sad people can't just appreciate her accomplishments
Amanda smokes cyborgs resume
Not nearly as impressive when you consider 3/4 belts were vacant at the time.
On what do you base Cyborg bearing the greatest? Resume? Name her 5 best wins.
Nunes KO Cyborg
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