Conor Mcgregor: Something to Keep in Mind

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  1. Luminaire

    Luminaire Silver Belt

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    While yes, Conor has completely outclassed his recent opponents in a way few others have and he's looked increasingly good doing it.

    What is the best win of one of his opponents?

    Dustin Porier's win over Eric Koch?
    Dennis Siver's win over George Sotiropoulis?

    Once you examine it, none of his opponents have a single win over upper tier fighters.

    Siver was finished by Cerrone in 2 minutes, and TKO'd by Swanson.

    As great as Conor Mcgregor has looked, there's still a lot of uncertainty with just how good he is. All of this will be answered when he fights Aldo, but it still would have been nice to see him go up against Edgar, Lamas, Mendes or someone of that caliber first.
     
  2. PatTheAnaconda

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    couldn't agree more. Dennis Siver should not have been a title eliminator fight period. Ridiculous ball massage by Dana to slide Conor in to the title shot and himself into some bigger paydays.
     
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    llamas would have been nice for sure
     
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    Metal_Daze Geonor St Gregor

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    Yeah they should have give him the Frankie Edgar treatment: go up in weight and lose two fights then we'll match you up against the champ.
     
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    GSot and Koch had gigantic hype trains behind them at the time.
     
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    Jblizzle Red Belt

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    I think what you're saying has been said many times over on these forums.
     
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  8. Shael

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    I think Holloway is a better win than Siver.
     
  9. Moral Victory

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    Lamas would be just right for McGregor now, that little video is enough to get McG to spew something on Lamas and then we'll see a worthy contender if Conor beats him.
     
  10. IalwaysWin

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    Looks like I am going to have to perform yet another tabulation using my trusty MMA math calculator.

    The Siver/Cerrone fight was in an entirely different weight class for starters.

    Siver only had one loss at Featherweight and that was to Swanson. Connor made it look easy in comparison to Cub's performance.
     
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    I agree with this, he's going to go far.
     
  12. Csjbo08

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    Of course there's some uncertainty regarding the ceiling of McGregor, but at the same time TJ Dillashaw and Chris Weidman didn't have any victories against the elites of their respective weightclasses before they got a title shot.
     
  13. Rational Poster

    Rational Poster War Room Messiah Platinum Member

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    Siver gave Cub as much as he could handle.

    Siver is a solid fighter and got made to look like an amateur.

    Quit hating.
     
  14. giovanni002

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    Yep, Lamas has way more impressive and quality wins on his route to the title shot than Conor no doubt. Beating Swanson (before Swanson went on a red hot win streak) and upsetting 2 fighters who were already offered the title shots back then, Hioki and Koch.
     
  15. RepairManManMan

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    Me, I don't buy it.

    Competition is relative to many factors that take place. That being timing, training, preparation, physical and mental health, etc. Considering how we should all know that styles, not previous competition, makes fights, we should also accept the obvious. Who knows how any other fighter would do if pitted against the same competition as someone else. Perhaps fighters who made it into the ufc would have been derailed and had their contracts wiped from the history books.

    You can only beat whose put in front of you. Conor has done that, and not with any boring performances.

    HOW they win is just as important as IF they win.
     
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    Featherweight rankings:
    2) Mendes - Aldo beat him twice
    3) Edgar - Aldo beat him
    4) Lamas - Aldo beat him
    5) Swanson - Aldo beat him

    You don't have to like McGregor but stop kidding yourselves about how "deserving" he is of the title shot. Aldo has cleaned out the division. Some shertards really need to have this spelled out for them.
     
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    I think we can all agree that question marks will remain until he fights the Big 4.

    But give credit where credit is due.
     
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    lol form? really? its not horse racing.

    the problem with youre argument is that it complete negates natural ability and skill of said fighter, who gives a shit what his opponents have done, he is STEAM ROLLING guys mendes and cub couldnt put away and took til round 3 to beat and never once at any moment did they look as dominant as Conor did. the ease at which conor beat siver really was ridiculous, took cub 3 rounds not to mention the odds on that fight cub was something like -146 for that fight , conor -900 lmao.
     
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  20. Zanmato

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    why are you suggesting that a large lightweight, who happens to be a fairly talented kickboxer and grappler, and is about to fight for a title beating dennis siver diminishes what mcgregor did to him?

    cub swanson dropped a round to siver and took nearly two rounds on top of that to finish him... please don't try to diminish his talent as a fighter just to score points off mcgregor

    yes mcgregor's opponents don't have those signature top 3-4 wins and neither yet does he, but the way in which he has defeated his opponents it's very impressive.

    g-sot was on a 7 fight win streak going into that fight with siver
    max holloway is 7-3 in the ufc, one loss to mcgregor and one debatable loss to a contender in dennis bermudez
    poirier has proven to be a very good fighter

    we will see mcgregor tested against very legit opposition coming up which is all that matters, but trying to trash the guy's he's beaten just to make your own point is not fair. you can revise just about every fighter's career in that way.

    i personally think aldo will knock mcgregor out as his style is just too wild and his stance is very wide and begging for leg kicks... but saying "well even cub swanson - #4 ranked in the world and someone that people were suggesting mcgregor would have to go through en route to the title - finished siver so how good can mcgregor actually be?" when he did it far less impressively is rather misrepresenting the facts
     

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