Conor is light years ahead of Floyd in PPV performance

I can tell you know nothing. So a 6'5 220 lbs guy can make it but a all American highschool football player that's 6'8 280lbs wouldn't cut. "Oh but it's not the size, it's the heart". Stfu. Lebron would run through that NBA because he was the biggest/fastest by far. He would destroy that league worse than the one he's destroying now. Lebron was actually born to late as this style doesn't benefit him as much.

You are both kinda idiots who don't know shit about basketball. Lebron has ZERO case right now to being better then Jordan. MAYBE (and thats a HUGE maybe) he can get there with 3 more rings, 3 more finals MVPs, a DPOY, couple more MVPs etc... But right now Jordan is clearly the better player with the better career. That being said, Lebron is top 5 and will likely be considered right there with KAJ when its all said and done
 
Mayweather was the first guy with astronomical PPV numbers for a "smaller guy" is what I said.

Oscar led the way for Floyd to become the A-Side, but Oscar has never done the numbers Floyd ended up doing - Mayweather took it up a notch.

You don't know what you're talking about. It was very close up untill recently between their numbers and his best PPV is still in the all time top 3. Mayweather was very slightly ahead right before the Pacquiao fight and of course after that PPV it's no longer close. But Oscar was the first PPV megastar and did very consistent numbers for quite a few years in his prime, in fact no boxer not even Tyson and Holyfield was close to his numbers up untill Floyd, so how Floyd can't be the first.
 
Lololololol. You forgetting something. Lebron would be allowed to hit back. Good luck getting up when lebron is patrolling the lane. Jordan would get demolished. You act like lebrons soft because he's playing the rules.

And one on one??? Not even close. Would be a mismatch. Lebron would take Jordan in the post and it's not even close. You're an idiot if you think one on one Jordan gets it done. That wouldn't even prove anything though because jordans just not big enough to guard him. That mid range game of Jordan's that had him shooting under 50% his whole career? That mid range game. Go to sleep

Lebron is the best player in the game, but his post game is not that great (compaired to the rest of his game). Lebron's strength is not one on one, its in transition. The guys who have had the most sucsess guarding Lebron are guys built much like Jordan, like Andre Iguodala (who the Cavs did everything they could to keep Lebron from playing man on man with). You are losing credibility bud. Jordan was the far better one on one player. That was his game. Thats NOT Lebrons game. Lebrons game is pick and rolls and transition. Offensively and defensively Jordan is far better then Lebron one on one. And the post game? HAHA Thats all Jordan. He he had one of the greatest post games in NBA history
 
You are also comparing different decades to one another. Times change. The amount of people buying PPV now is far more common place than it was when Floyd was the age that Connor is now.
Thats a great point. By his logic Conor is a bigger draw the Mike Tyson
 
Lebron is the best player in the game, but his post game is not that great (compaired to the rest of his game). Lebron's strength is not one on one, its in transition. The guys who have had the most sucsess guarding Lebron are guys built much like Jordan, like Andre Iguodala (who the Cavs did everything they could to keep Lebron from playing man on man with). You are losing credibility bud. Jordan was the far better one on one player. That was his game. Thats NOT Lebrons game. Lebrons game is pick and rolls and transition. Offensively and defensively Jordan is far better then Lebron one on one. And the post game? HAHA Thats all Jordan. He he had one of the greatest post games in NBA history
You're retarded. Where did you play your ball? Greatest post game against who? Guard who were smaller. Michael got bottled up by guys like dumars. Lebron isn't going one on one with igoudala. They load up on him with all defensive players like green and Thompson. No one guards lebron one on one. Dala is also much bigger than Jordan (strength wise). Lebron not a great one on one player? Sure he is. He's just better at other parts of the game. He needs to win more? No he doesn't. He's already done things Jordan never did. If he wins more it only pads his resume.
 
You're retarded. Where did you play your ball? Greatest post game against who? Guard who were smaller. Michael got bottled up by guys like dumars. Lebron isn't going one on one with igoudala. They load up on him with all defensive players like green and Thompson. No one guards lebron one on one. Dala is also much bigger than Jordan (strength wise). Lebron not a great one on one player? Sure he is. He's just better at other parts of the game. He needs to win more? No he doesn't. He's already done things Jordan never did. If he wins more it only pads his resume.

Uh... What? GS always had Igoudala gaurd Lebron one on one. The Cavs always used a screen to get Lebron a different match up because Lebron never had much success with him guarding him. GS was horrible at stopping the switch though

Come in man. You are sounding like those delusional Kobe fans. Lebron is great, Jordan was greater. What really separated then was Jordan's incredible mental game that was head and shoulders above everyone else to ever play
 
Floyd also was not a PPV draw before the Oscar fight... he needed an established star/draw to get to that level.

Same with Pacquiao. Was not close to a draw before fighting Oscar, again, an already established mega star. They both needed Oscar as their platform to reach the next level.

Conor built his star and drawing power completely by himself. He didn't fight anyone who was a draw to get there, he created it on his own.
That's not suprising, Conor is much more interesting as a fighter and charismatic as a person.
 
That's not suprising, Conor is much more interesting as a fighter and charismatic as a person.
Floyd is more polarizing though. That's why Conor straight stole his money persona and why any time he fought half the threads in the mma forums were about him
 
You don't know what you're talking about. It was very close up untill recently between their numbers and his best PPV is still in the all time top 3. Mayweather was very slightly ahead right before the Pacquiao fight and of course after that PPV it's no longer close. But Oscar was the first PPV megastar and did very consistent numbers for quite a few years in his prime, in fact no boxer not even Tyson and Holyfield was close to his numbers up untill Floyd, so how Floyd can't be the first.
Bro, I think you're mistaken.

1.) Mayweather vs Pacquiao (May 2015) 4,600,000 - $410 million revenue.
2.) Mayweather vs Canelo Alvarez (September 2013) 2,200,000 - $150 million revenue.
3.) Mayweather vs Oscar De La Hoya (May 2007) 2,480,000 - $136 million revenue.
4.) Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield II (June 1997) 1,990,000 - $100.2 million revenue.
5.) Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis (June 2002) 1,950,000 - $112 million revenue.
6.) Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield I (November 1996) 1,590,000 - $77.9 million revenue.
7.) Mike Tyson vs Peter McNeeley (August 1995) 1,550,000 - $96 million revenue.
8.) Mayweather vs Shane Mosely (May 2010) 1,400,000 - $94 million revenue.
9.) Oscar De La Hoya vs Felix Trinidad (September 1999) 1,400,000 - $64 million revenue.
10.) Evander Holyfield vs George Foreman (April 1991) 1,400,000 - $80 million revenue.
11.) Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez III(November 2011) 1,250,000 - $75 million revenue.

How many of that top 11 has De La Hoya in it?

You mention that Mike and Evander were not even close to Oscar's numbers? Well Holyfield did 1.4 million against Foreman and 1.59 and 1.99 million respectively with Tyson. Tyson did 1.55 against McNeeley even - so I think you're a little off with your claims sir.

Mayweather is the reason why that Oscar fight was so big, 2 huge names colliding and you know this because Oscar's nearest number other than that 2.48 million was a whole million less against Felix.

Mayweather is the PPV king, Mike Tyson in 2nd place, no problem in admitting that.
 
Bro, I think you're mistaken.

1.) Mayweather vs Pacquiao (May 2015) 4,600,000 - $410 million revenue.
2.) Mayweather vs Canelo Alvarez (September 2013) 2,200,000 - $150 million revenue.
3.) Mayweather vs Oscar De La Hoya (May 2007) 2,480,000 - $136 million revenue.
4.) Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield II (June 1997) 1,990,000 - $100.2 million revenue.
5.) Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis (June 2002) 1,950,000 - $112 million revenue.
6.) Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield I (November 1996) 1,590,000 - $77.9 million revenue.
7.) Mike Tyson vs Peter McNeeley (August 1995) 1,550,000 - $96 million revenue.
8.) Mayweather vs Shane Mosely (May 2010) 1,400,000 - $94 million revenue.
9.) Oscar De La Hoya vs Felix Trinidad (September 1999) 1,400,000 - $64 million revenue.
10.) Evander Holyfield vs George Foreman (April 1991) 1,400,000 - $80 million revenue.
11.) Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez III(November 2011) 1,250,000 - $75 million revenue.

How many of that top 11 has De La Hoya in it?

You mention that Mike and Evander were not even close to Oscar's numbers? Well Holyfield did 1.4 million against Foreman and 1.59 and 1.99 million respectively with Tyson. Tyson did 1.55 against McNeeley even - so I think you're a little off with your claims sir.

Mayweather is the reason why that Oscar fight was so big, 2 huge names colliding and you know this because Oscar's nearest number other than that 2.48 million was a whole million less against Felix.

Mayweather is the PPV king, Mike Tyson in 2nd place, no problem in admitting that.

Nobody denied that Mayweather is PPV king, but he was not the first small fighter to be PPV king, and Oscar is #2 by a landslide. You're also incorrect about De La Hoya's influence on Mayweather's popularity. After that record breaking fight in 06 is when Mayweather became a PPV juggernaut. Before that Mayweather was struggling, he took a big hit with that Baldomir fight where many people left the arena before the fight was over lol.

You are looking at the all time biggest PPV fights and not looking at the whole picture. Look at all of the PPV numbers in Oscar's career combined. He was actually in the lead untill Mayweather's most recent couple of fights.
 
Conor makes money for the UFC while they pay him pennies, Flyod makes an easy 100m in a fight lol
 
Conor makes money for the UFC while they pay him pennies, Flyod makes an easy 100m in a fight lol

What had Floyd earned at the time he was Conor's age? Not exactly fair to compare a 28 year old to a 40 year old in terms of total earnings especially when the 40 didn't get his first 100m payday until age 37.
 
MMA striking > boxing

Boxing sucks... i'd only watch that shit fo free and if I only have an antenna
 
@The Natural Born Runner and @Readybodisready

Here's the first real PPV star of the lighter weight divisions;

"Showtime Event Television (SET) and KingVision expect to exceed last year's Chavez-Hector Camacho fight, which generated a 4.2 percent buy rate, or more than 800,000 purchases, said Suzan Couch, the senior marketing consultant to SET. But a lower 3.7 rate, or 740,000 buys, was figured by Paul Kagan Associates, a media research firm."

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/09/10/sports/view-from-pay-per-view.html


"King has to hope that buyers will view Chavez-Alli as the equivalent of the Chavez-Greg Haugen and Chavez-Hector Camacho fights, which drew buy rates of 3.7 and 4.0, respectively. Both buy rates are considered good for non-heavyweight fights but don't approach the best ever boxing buy rate of 8.4 for the Evander Holyfield-George Foreman fight."

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/07/s...vez-drawing-power-faces-heavyweight-test.html


"The fight generated an approximate 5 percent buy-rate, with over 1 million subscribers purchasing the fight, according to Suzan Couch, senior marketing consultant for SET. "We were marketing for a 4.5 percent buy-rate so we were very pleased with the results," she said.

Operators' estimates, however, were slightly less; they tabbed the buy-rates at below 5 percent. They said between 950,000 and 1 million subscribers bought the fight. Nevertheless, the fight, with a gross of approximately $30 million, will likely be the highest performing non-heavyweight PPV boxing event ever. …"

https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-14473863.html


Chavez was pulling 750,000 to 1,000,000 buys in these fights when PPV was only available to about 20 million homes in North America and was getting 3.7 to 5.0 percent buy rates in those fights. He also drew big numbers in some of his other PPV fights as well such as the 2.7% buy rate (or 575,000 total buys in Taylor rematch). Oscar's biggest percentage buy rates were against Trinidad at 3.6% and then against Mayweather at 4.1%. Mayweather's three biggest were against Pacquiao at 4.6%, Oscar at 4.1% and then Canelo at 2.5%. Now, it's obvious that Chavez wouldn't be able to draw those same percentages had he been around in today's era since the law of diminishing returns would be a factor. But if he could draw nearly a million buys when the available PPV audience is limited to only about 20 million, odds are pretty outstanding that he'd be able to draw some pretty incredible numbers if had the opportunity to draw from a market size of 100 million that we see in today's age.
 
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