Compared to today's UFC roster, Strike Force was dumb to sell out

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  1. tramendous

    tramendous Silver Belt

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    These are the stars of Strikeforce. There are currently 4 strikeforce fighters holding belts in HW, LHW, WW and Women's bantanweight titles. They had a good product and their fighters could hang with and defeat UFC fighters. Im not saying they would beat all UFC counter parts but any notion that strikeforce was second rate, was and is dumb. This is a crazy amount of star power and it leads me to believe that the UFC was just better at promoting their stars. I dont think we will see an organization like that for a while.

    (sry if mis-listed/missed anyone)

    Heavyweights:

    Daniel Cormier (current LHW Champion)
    Antonio 'Bigfoot' Silva
    Fabricio Werdum (current HW champion)
    Fedor Emelianenko
    Alistair 'Ubereem' Overeem
    Andrei 'Pitbull' Arlovski
    Josh Barnett
    Sergei Kharitonov
    Jeff Monson

    Light Heavyweights:

    Muhammad 'King Mo' Lawal
    Gegard Mousasi
    Renato 'Babalu' Sobral
    raphael 'Feijao' Cavalcante
    Dan 'Hendo' Henderson

    Middle Weights:

    Ronaldo 'Jacare' D'Souza
    Luke Rockhold
    Tim Kennedy
    Roger Gracie
    Cung Le
    Jake Shields
    Dan 'Hendo' Henderson (also LHW)
    Robbie Lawler (current WW champ)

    Welter Weights:

    Nick Diaz
    Nate Marquardt
    Tarec Saffediedine
    Tyrone Woodley
    Jason High
    KJ Noons (also LW)
    Evangelista 'Cyborg' Santos
    Marius Zaromskis
    Paul Daley
    Scott Smith

    Light Weights:

    Gilbert 'El Nino' Melendez
    Josh Thompson
    Tatsuya Kawajiri
    Shinya Aoki
    Jorge Masvidal
    Vitor 'Shaolin' Rebeiro
    KJ Noons (also WW)
    Gesias "JZ" Cavalcante

    Women:

    Rhonda Rousey current champ
    Chris 'Cyborg' Santos
    Marloes Coenen
    Miesha Tate
     
  2. CC27

    CC27 Gold Belt

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    they had a good roster, glad they did sell so we can see the best fights.
     
  3. Thepaintbucket

    Thepaintbucket Silver Belt

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    If I remember correctly, Scott said the investors were looking to get out of the MMA business.
     
  4. gspieler

    gspieler Silver Belt

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    Doesn't matter how good your roster is, as long as the media and general public equate MMA with UFC, they're going to promote/believe whatever propaganda the UFC puts out about their competition. A few years ago, Werdum was a UFC reject, Reem was a juiced didn't have enough credible wins to be in the UFC, and women shouldn't be doing mma altogether(all according to Dana).
     
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    Cubo de Sangre President of the War Room

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    Marketing, marketing, marketing.
     
  6. M.V.C.

    M.V.C. Silver Belt

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    Money talks.
     
  7. accolyte1022

    accolyte1022 Fighting Giants

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    Investors were losing money...
     
  8. Drake

    Drake Guest

    This.
     
  9. BobbyD963

    BobbyD963 Never reveal your sources. Platinum Member

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    And if and when Fedor signs with the UFC you better believe Fedor will be the best fighter in the world in the UFC's eyes.
     
  10. Evangelion

    Evangelion Silver Belt

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    Why would u want one org with 20% of the best fighters and another with 75%?

    When u could have one org with 95%?
     
  11. Iron Leg

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    Roster strength =/= profitability
     
  12. fleshcross

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    So a handful out of their entire roster are successful and you think they were dumb to sell? There's more to it than just fights unfortunately.

    Their elites have held their own, very true. But the rest?

    Also, 2 of those champions were originally UFC fighters. I don't care one way or another, but come on...
     
  13. rakeleaves

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    No, Strikeforce was profitable. They just decided to sell.
     
  14. ill0giKaL

    ill0giKaL Brown Belt

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    Yes.
     
  15. JKS

    JKS 77+&--#rT....

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    Yes this is correct, they were financing SF anymore. They wanted to invest more into Hockey and didnt see a long term pay off with mma, they saw it was risky
     
  16. tramendous

    tramendous Silver Belt

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    because competition breeds quality for the consumer. the fighters would have had more leverage to demand better wages. better wages mean better athletes looking to try MMA.

    both organizations would be more motivated to not put on half ass cards
     
  17. CTYankee

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    Because then they have more to complain about.
     
  18. CoffeeAndBeer

    CoffeeAndBeer OG from 1993

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    SVSE cashed-out.
    They took the money and ran. They were venture capitalists.


    Coker never wanted to sell.
     
  19. bearVSshark

    bearVSshark Braf Zachland

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    I honestly believe bellator could have ufc roster and vice versa, and ufc still would be the bigger org
     
  20. greenseeker

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    I believe they lost their Showtime and CBS deals thanks to Nick, Nate, and Gil jumping Mayhem. It went downhill pretty quickly after that, that's why they were available to be bought by Zuffa in the first place.

    If Zuffa had just brought them funding and let them keep doing what they were doing, it would have went fine, but instead they pillaged all of their talent. They also could have set it up as an exciting 'AAA' league. They should have used it to hold tournaments, with the winners going to the UFC. It could have been the new TUF but with less soap drama.
     

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