Combining striking styles.

[El Greco]

Hello, i made a thread in the grappling forum thats similar to this one.

But what do you guys think about combining striking styles? Do you think its stupid? Like for instance. I wanted to do Kyokushin and Muay Thai at the same time. Does that sound unnecessary?

Or even Boxing and Kyokushin or kick boxing and boxing. Or boxing and MT.


What do you guys think? Any one here cross train striking styles?

 

[Brendon Katz]

well theres this new competition called the ultimate fighting challenges or something ,and i hear that a lot of the guys who enter that 'cross-train', whatever that means.

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[Judoka101]

Well its fine for the combinations i see(Boxing and Kickboxing is good) and also Boxing and Muay Thai is common in the UFC.

I think its fine but training both at the same time when your beginning may be a hassle.

 

[Marvin Covar]

you have to be proficient in one first before cross-training in another, but that's just me.

 

[El Greco]

Ok lets say that you have already started and have alot of time under your belt for one art. (i have already done MT for 2 years) How about then?

 

[dat1978]

Ok lets say that you have already started and have alot of time under your belt for one art. (i have already done MT for 2 years) How about then?

i say go for it. that's what i'm going to do as well. i've done MT for years, but lately have been wanting to go to just a boxing gym to clean up my punches and hopefully give me an advantage over my opponents when sparring. my kicks are good so i figure with good hands and movement this will give me another way to keep them guessing and open up opportunities to lay some good kicks on them.

 

[SStomper]

boxing and MT, thats all you're gonna need and they work well together

 

[El Greco]

well theres this new competition called the ultimate fighting challenges or something ,and i hear that a lot of the guys who enter that 'cross-train', whatever that means.

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Its Ultimate Fighting Championship and im talking aobut people who want to excell in their standing game. People who would like to aim for something like K1 or stand up competition rather then MMA


ps Your sarcasm is not necessary.

 

[El Greco]

i say go for it. that's what i'm going to do as well. i've done MT for years, but lately have been wanting to go to just a boxing gym to clean up my punches and hopefully give me an advantage over my opponents when sparring. my kicks are good so i figure with good hands and movement this will give me another way to keep them guessing and open up opportunities to lay some good kicks on them.

I think thats a good idea and i thought of that and was really attracted to the idea of western boxing with MT.

But the thing is that i really like about KK is the rigorous body conditioning and constant Kumite (sparring) This is really practical for the street and ring as it teaches you to take pain and give it aswell. KKers really rely on effective quick high kicks because they are not allowed to punch the face. This would be awsome.

 

[Brendon Katz]

Its Ultimate Fighting Championship and im talking aobut people who want to excell in their standing game. People who would like to aim for something like K1 or stand up competition rather then MMA


ps Your sarcasm is not necessary.

even so, tailor your training to suit your goals. do you use hands in k-1 ? yes. best hands training - boxing. do you use legs in k-1 ? yes. best kicking training - (arguably) muay thai. will you face guys who have experience in karate/kung-fu/tae-kwon-do ? yes. best way to deal with them? to learn what to expect, and that means getting your own experience in/against that style.

get some training partners from different styles and different gyms together, and see what works best under the rules you want to fight under. not style-wise though, dont say oh ok, the karate guy did better than the tkd guy, so i must do karate. see what the karate guy did that was better than the tkd guy, and keep that.

 

[El Greco]

I understand what your saying but western boxing really could help sharpen your hand skills. And for the KK im saying that it really helps give you experience with the constant full contact no-pad sparring that alot of places dont allow.

I think every MA can offer something that another cant. And its not techniques or even Skill level

 

[dat1978]

I think thats a good idea and i thought of that and was really attracted to the idea of western boxing with MT.

But the thing is that i really like about KK is the rigorous body conditioning and constant Kumite (sparring) This is really practical for the street and ring as it teaches you to take pain and give it aswell. KKers really rely on effective quick high kicks because they are not allowed to punch the face. This would be awsome.

i don't have any experience with KK so i can't really comment, but i will say that with my superior MT and boxing skills i don't plan on ever getting hit. no need for pain conditioning. :icon_chee

seriously though, between getting hit in boxing and MT classes that's enough training on how to take a punch or kick for me. i don't feel that i need to specifically seek out an art for that. especially when i think about grappling classes and the hits i've taken in there, some accidental some not. i've taken a few knees to the face and i'm still here.

i say just take a couple classes and see what you think. if the KK seems like it will benefit you go for it, if not then try to find a boxing gym. most schools will offer trial classes so that you can see what's up. sign the waiver and go for it.

 

[SnowBlynd]

Once you have a good foundation in one, you should experiement with other styles as much as possible. Even if the only thing you take from a new style is like a San Shou leg grab, it's worth the effort. All those new moves add up after a while.

 

[Biggiebrother**]

If you have a certain level of experience then i think you can combine styles more effectively than someone trying to learn two styles from the ground up

 

[Evil Eye Gouger]

Ok lets say that you have already started and have alot of time under your belt for one art. (i have already done MT for 2 years) How about then?

I branched off into boxing after 10 years of TKD and it worked like a charm.

I think it's easier if you take two arts whose principles don't conflict too much.

 

[El Greco]

I branched off into boxing after 10 years of TKD and it worked like a charm.

I think it's easier if you take two arts whose principles don't conflict too much.

Yea i agree. That sounds really good to me man.

So are you just boxing right now or are you still doing TKD or anything else?

 

[Evil Eye Gouger]

Yea i agree. That sounds really good to me man.

So are you just boxing right now or are you still doing TKD or anything else?

I'm doing both. I've found that TKD has given me lots of skills which transfer over into boxing, like footwork, reflexes, positioning, angles, distance and basic punching.

I've also found that boxing has fixed some weaknesses I had as a result of my previous training, mostly clinch work and getting overwhelmed on the inside. I've also found that boxing has improved my TKD game.

The key is that I was experienced already before I started cross-training. I think that this helps you put the conflicting information into the proper context and help you make good decisions regarding YOUR personal style. Some people cross train too early, get conflicting instructions and their training suffers from it.

 

[aries]

I think thats a good idea and i thought of that and was really attracted to the idea of western boxing with MT.

But the thing is that i really like about KK is the rigorous body conditioning and constant Kumite (sparring) This is really practical for the street and ring as it teaches you to take pain and give it aswell. KKers really rely on effective quick high kicks because they are not allowed to punch the face. This would be awsome.

How many times do people use body strikes in streetfights? Or even highkicks? I don't think its very practical in that sense.

 

[Core]

i do boxing and kickboxing, its pretty self-explanatory. Boxing improves my punches and kick boxing improves my kicks.

 

[El Greco]

How many times do people use body strikes in streetfights? Or even highkicks? I don't think its very practical in that sense.

Its experience that i want. You have kumite every session and again its conditioning is amazing.

How many times are you going to get in a fight and have hand wraps along with gloves so you can protect your wrist? I think KK is extremely practical. Its bare knuckle full contact, i just cant agree with what your saying.