Cocaine Abuse (personal)

[riitzni]

From coke to HGH. What a heart warming story.

 

[MRT]

My expierence with Cocaine, is there is not alot of recreational users that don't graduate to addictive behaviours very fast. I do alot of service work for addicts, and the stories are all the same.

that is unfortunately grossly inaccurate.

the treatment population is NOT reflective of the overall population of drug users, and the research literature is quite clear on this point.

treatment populations are but a subset of overall users, i.e. those who have sought or been compelled to enter treatment for whatever reason (overdose, the court system, personal or family choice, etc.) and it fails to consider the MAJORITY of users who never end up in treatment, assuming that they are similar when they are not.

Most drug and alcohol users (yes, cocaine and even heroin) do NOT become 'addicted', and many who do become addicted stop without formal treatment. Many alcoholics een return to non-problematic social drinking. This is not something the treatment establishment likes to acknowledge, even when aware of it (often for self-serving reasons).

This is not at all intended to diminish your experiences with addicts. In fact, we learn a great deal about addiction from treatment populations...but we learn FAR from the 'whole story' by only looking at that subset.

 

[sberg]

I'm sure all the people you named didn't go in just for cocaine alone, most likely a combination of drugs.

Which is weird because I know a lot of people that do and did coke and they never went to a rehab. Now the dope heads I know all went to rehab, that's why it's weird to me.

I would think one would go to rehab for alcohol before cocaine.

All the people I named went to rehab for coke...it's been well documented...Most have been open and talked about it.....Sheen talks about it all the time....Downey has been open about it....Same with Billy Joel......Lohan is another....I mean the list goes on and on....This is not uncommon knowledge...

 

[dickcheney]

HGH doesn't get you high!! But I do take alot of HGH, never felt better.

So, does that mean you have to take HHH forever now? Like even at 90?

 

[Headkicktoleg]

Isn't coke one of the most addictive drugs there is. Like you can get hooked after 1 or 2 times?

 

[jimmyfg2]

I think he's only going to rehab because he is famous. There was a time where I used to consume at least 4-6 grams a week for a month but I stopped. I craved it but didn't fall back to it, but that's my experience I know a lot of people are different. I just think he doesn't have an addiction problem and I'm sure he's only doing it for his public image.

 

[grzelkaj]

Not intelligent enough to post in the correct forum.

 

[sberg]

that is unfortunately grossly inaccurate.

the treatment population is NOT reflective of the overall population of drug users, and the research literature is quite clear on this point.

treatment populations are but a subset of overall users, i.e. those who have sought or been compelled to enter treatment for whatever reason (overdose, the court system, personal or family choice, etc.) and it fails to consider the MAJORITY of users who never end up in treatment, assuming that they are similar when they are not.

Most drug and alcohol users (yes, cocaine and even heroin) do NOT become 'addicted', and many who do become addicted stop without formal treatment. Many alcoholics een return to non-problematic social drinking. This is not something the treatment establishment likes to acknowledge, even when aware of it (often for self-serving reasons).

This is not at all intended to diminish your experiences with addicts. In fact, we learn a great deal about addiction from treatment populations...but we learn FAR from the 'whole story' by only looking at that subset.

I won't say you're wrong in what you're saying but there is also a large majority who are extremely addicted, refuse help or I should say refuse the understanding that they need help of any kind and just die.....Denial is a huge part of an addictive personality.

 

[HGH4LIFE]

that is unfortunately grossly inaccurate.

the treatment population is NOT reflective of the overall population of drug users, and the research literature is quite clear on this point.

treatment populations are but a subset of overall users, i.e. those who have sought or been compelled to enter treatment for whatever reason (overdose, the court system, personal or family choice, etc.) and it fails to consider the MAJORITY of users who never end up in treatment, assuming that they are similar when they are not.

Most drug and alcohol users (yes, cocaine and even heroin) do NOT become 'addicted', and many who do become addicted stop without formal treatment. Many alcoholics een return to non-problematic social drinking. This is not something the treatment establishment likes to acknowledge, even when aware of it (often for self-serving reasons).



This is not at all intended to diminish your experiences with addicts. In fact, we learn a great deal about addiction from treatment populations...but we learn FAR from the 'whole story' by only looking at that subset.

Ya, I imagine you are American and the stats are very different in your country, insurance pays for rehab, and you have drug court. So alot of people go into programs for the wrong reasons. Some people that are not addicts, I have never met a addict that has went back to social using.

 

[Kanster]

All the people I named went to rehab for coke...it's been well documented...Most have been open and talked about it.....Sheen talks about it all the time....Downey has been open about it....Same with Billy Joel......Lohan is another....I mean the list goes on and on....This is not uncommon knowledge...

With Sheen I'm not surprised, anyway I thought it would be for liquor instead.

Going to say it again, from people I know personally, I never heard of any of them going to rehab for coke alone.

 

[sberg]

I think he's only going to rehab because he is famous. There was a time where I used to consume at least 4-6 grams a week for a month but I stopped. I craved it but didn't fall back to it, but that's my experience I know a lot of people are different. I just think he doesn't have an addiction problem and I'm sure he's only doing it for his public image.

Glad you were able to stop...Some of us like myself would do that for years on end....Yes I stopped on my own but what I was at the end and how long it took to get right again was a freakin war I never want to fight again...

 

[sberg]

With Sheen I'm not surprised, anyway I thought it would be for liquor instead.

Going to say it again, from people I know personally, I never heard of any of them going to rehab for coke alone.

Keep that in mind "What you know".....Lots of us have a totally different view based on what we've experienced ourselves and have seen close friends go through.....Believe me dude I'm not trying to sound off like a know it all, really I'm not....But I've seen first hand how many different drugs have wrecked people in many different ways and the lengths they and myself went through to get clean......
Some were easier than others but for some it was pure hell. And I mean that in every sense of the word.

 

[screaminleeman]

With Sheen I'm not surprised, anyway I thought it would be for liquor instead.

Going to say it again, from people I know personally, I never heard of any of them going to rehab for coke alone.

That porn stick figure Kacey Jordan was quoted saying that Sheen was smoking a golfball size rock every hour in his height of addiction.

I start shaking just thinking about a golfcall sized rock of freebase.

 

[devilfisted]

I'm telling you from personal experience. Can you please provide a source.

Have you been in a rehab? Before meth it was all coke and crack users. Also don 't forget there are a number of ways to do coke.

 

[Kanster]

Keep that in mind "What you know".....Lots of us have a totally different view based on what we've experienced ourselves and have seen close friends go through.....Believe me dude I'm not trying to sound off like a know it all, really I'm not....But I've seen first hand how many different drugs have wrecked people in many different ways and the lengths they and myself went through to get clean......
Some were easier than others but for some it was pure hell. And I mean that in every sense of the word.

I hear ya.

That porn stick figure Kacey Jordan was quoted saying that Sheen was smoking a golfball size rock every hour in his height of addiction.

I start shaking just thinking about a golfcall sized rock of freebase.

Damn lol. I'd hit dat stick figa doe.

Have you been in a rehab? Before meth it was all coke and crack users. Also don 't forget there are a number of ways to do coke.

Nope, I haven't. Been getting clean without that BS.

 

[sberg]

That porn stick figure Kacey Jordan was quoted saying that Sheen was smoking a golfball size rock every hour in his height of addiction.

I start shaking just thinking about a golfcall sized rock of freebase.

His stories were crazy.....
You wanna read up on some crazy stuff...Look up the book Motley Crue put out about themselves....I forget the name but that was nuts.....Those guys weren't human, they were cattle being led to the slaughter nightly...

 

[mma midwest fan]

At the moment I think this whole rehab deal is a PR move for a guy who likes coke but isn't a strung out addict. It's a way for him to stay ahead of the narrative now that the cat's out of the bag. Expect a few anti-drug PSA's from Bones once he completes rehab. "Hi kids, I'm Jon Jones, UFC champ and recovering addict. If you know of other kids who might be using drugs, tell an authority figure immediately. Lean more at BeASnitch.org"

 

[sberg]

I hear ya.

Nope, I haven't. Been getting clean without that BS.

Congrats dude...If you can do it without Treatment more power to you, it's not for everyone but it does help for some......I just Celebrated 18 months myself....Hasn't been easy but I know full well where I don't want to be anymore....

 

[berimBOWLoh]

I know a lot of people that do hard drugs and honestly this is the first time I hear someone going to rehab for coke.

def the dumbest post ive read this year so far, could be a top contender come december.

 

[TGArthur]

Stupidest thing I have ever read. Rehabs came along because of coke

He's just giving his personal experience just like you did yours you hypocrite.