Co-Promoting in boxing...

[Finding Deebo]

Tryin learn the intracacies of boxing a little bit better. Is it very infrequent for fighters with different promoters to fight each other? If they do, how does it play out in terms of money and "promotion" responsibilities? Also, do the sanctioning bodies have the ability to sort of force a co-promoted fight as a mandatory defense?

 

[Seano]

It happens more than people think but its difficult to get the bigger stars from two promotions to fight simply because its less profitable.

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

Regarding the bodies. They hate undisputed champs. People tend to think the reason there were so few in recent decades is because its hard. Well nope, the bodies just hate it and try as hard as they can to prevent it or stop it.
Tyson won the klit belts and became lineal undisputed, the ibf suddenly felt the need to strip him cause he was busy with a rematch clause instead of facing their mandetory... riiiight

 

[Mr2urbo]

Small local promoters always will co promote with the big promoters GBP PBC and TR, between the big 3 however its pretty rare because of that reason, they are big and have an obligation to their perspective networks and therefore makes it difficult, promotion and then the ppv and live gate split.

Spence and Crawfors being a good example, either FOX or ESPN miss out on promoting the fight and missing out on millions, Pacquaio and Mayeeather was the last biggest co promotion ahead of Wilder and Fury, it also means when their guy loses, his marketability takes a dump so promoters and networks are not willing to take those risks.

DiBella imo is probably the most flexible out of the big 3, he has fighters in all 3 I beleive

 

[deucesarewild]

Tryin learn the intracacies of boxing a little bit better. Is it very infrequent for fighters with different promoters to fight each other? If they do, how does it play out in terms of money and "promotion" responsibilities? Also, do the sanctioning bodies have the ability to sort of force a co-promoted fight as a mandatory defense?

Advice: don't try to figure out boxing

 

[svmVR2097]

Small local promoters always will co promote with the big promoters GBP PBC and TR, between the big 3 however its pretty rare because of that reason, they are big and have an obligation to their perspective networks and therefore makes it difficult, promotion and then the ppv and live gate split.

Spence and Crawfors being a good example, either FOX or ESPN miss out on promoting the fight and missing out on millions, Pacquaio and Mayeeather was the last biggest co promotion ahead of Wilder and Fury, it also means when their guy loses, his marketability takes a dump so promoters and networks are not willing to take those risks.

DiBella imo is probably the most flexible out of the big 3, he has fighters in all 3 I beleive

well actually, when co-promoting, it mitigates risk by splitting it losses if any amongst 2 networks/promoters, but that means any profits also need split up between the 2.

With ESPN/FOX now for Crawford/Spence, even more so than when Wilder/Fury 2 happened, I think theres an issue on a split because ESPN+ PPV, which FOX would'nt be privy to unless contract was worked out, ESPN are their own PPV providers, they don't have to give a 35-45% split to Comcast/ATT/etc cable providers. Where as Fox PPV does. So, that 30% of PPV's that ESPN+ would be purchased from 100% goes to them minus cost. The other 70% of the buys, you take 40% away, then that has to be split both ways or even just 1 way. Its a huge chunk taken away. Regardless of the buy split, both fighters are guaranteed a certain amount, my guess is they both would get a $10M base and guaranteed at least $25M total. So, unless it does over 1M buys, I'm not sure it's profitable at all.

thats just my rough interpretation of things