International CNN reporting: Biden admin to announce diplomatic boycott of Beijing Winter Olympics

Will Democrats use this as an example of how tough Biden is on China?
 
Confucamus said:
Will Democrats use this as an example of how tough Biden is on China?
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Biden admin has actually taken some real steps towards limiting investment and technology transfer to China.


U.S. blacklists dozens of Chinese tech firms citing national security concerns

- The Biden administration added a dozen Chinese companies to its trade blacklist on Wednesday.

- Of those blacklisted, eight Chinese technology entities were added for their alleged role in assisting the Chinese military’s quantum computing efforts.

- U.S. officials have long complained that Chinese companies are beholden to the People’s Republic of China and collect sensitive information on behalf of the People’s Liberation Army.

Eight technology entities based in China were added to the list for their alleged role in assisting the Chinese military’s quantum computing efforts and acquiring or attempting “to acquire U.S. origin-items in support of military applications.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/24/us-blacklists-dozens-of-chinese-tech-firms.html

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Biden has added to Trump's list of banned Chinese companies

Biden Blocks 59 Chinese Companies in Amended Trump Order

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...t-59-chinese-companies-in-amended-trump-order
 
MicroBrew said:
Biden admin has actually taken some real steps towards limiting investment and technology transfer to China.


U.S. blacklists dozens of Chinese tech firms citing national security concerns

- The Biden administration added a dozen Chinese companies to its trade blacklist on Wednesday.

- Of those blacklisted, eight Chinese technology entities were added for their alleged role in assisting the Chinese military’s quantum computing efforts.

- U.S. officials have long complained that Chinese companies are beholden to the People’s Republic of China and collect sensitive information on behalf of the People’s Liberation Army.

Eight technology entities based in China were added to the list for their alleged role in assisting the Chinese military’s quantum computing efforts and acquiring or attempting “to acquire U.S. origin-items in support of military applications.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/24/us-blacklists-dozens-of-chinese-tech-firms.html

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Biden has added to Trump's list of banned Chinese companies

Biden Blocks 59 Chinese Companies in Amended Trump Order

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...t-59-chinese-companies-in-amended-trump-order
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Wait, isn’t that racist?

Am confused????
 
I don't think Olympic boycotts are particularly effective at accomplishing much other than robbing athletes of their dreams, but if you're gonna do it, go all the way and show you mean business. A diplomatic boycott is the equivalent of sending an angry letter.
 
HereticBD said:
I don't think Olympic boycotts are particularly effective at accomplishing much other than robbing athletes of their dreams, but if you're gonna do it, go all the way and show you mean business. A diplomatic boycott is the equivalent of sending an angry letter.
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A boycott crimps the ability of dictators to utilize sportswashing to make themselves and their regimes look better. The Soviets and Chinese were always very obssessed with winning in international sports because they saw it as a propaghanda coup and legitimization of their ideology and regimes. Now we have Bin Salman doing the same thing, trying to make everyone ignore or self censor criticism by engaging with the Western sports world.
 
Do nothing Trump and Biden and whomever is next will only do these types of gestures and political grandstanding as long as American businesses have the "freedom" to do business in China. The global supply crisis only shows how much the US relies on China and yet, you don't see Congress scrambling to encourage/require "Made in the USA" to flourish.

And we all know big business won't do that on their own. They will be in China with there high level executives enjoying the Olympics which is rigged anyway.
 
China shouldn't even be getting the Olympics so soon again. They literally kidnap people for political reasons and they obviously can't be trusted to run impartial games (i.e. have impartial officials). Total joke country that, in a fair world, we wouldn't give the time of the day.
 
MicroBrew said:
A boycott crimps the ability of dictators to utilize sportswashing to make themselves and their regimes look better.
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Might be the intent, but in reality, it doesn't do a goddamn thing to those regimes.
 
Madmick said:
It's governmental virtue signaling if we don't send our athletes. The difference is only the athletes suffer when we do that.
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This is why I don't understand people complaining. I don't think our government should punish the athletes. I do however wish more of the individual athletes would boycott, but I understand why they won't.
 
HereticBD said:
Might be the intent, but in reality, it doesn't do a goddamn thing to those regimes.
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South Africa being made a pariah did hurt them. If athelets and celebs boycott China , it will bring attention to China's human rights issues because people will ask why all these folks are boycotting China.

P.R. and image is a big deal for China, which is why they are threatening countries with retaliation if they boycott the games. Arts, sports and music are very big deals in legitimizing and attracting support and investment to a country, it's why Bin Salman has been trying to woo concerts and sports events to Saudi. It's one of the reasons Dubai became the go to place in the MiddleEast. Softpower is a very big deal. It's why Israel does its best to thwart any attempt to get artists to boycott it.
 
Fugazy said:
They smell the blood in the water with new ownership at CNN.

That’s about it.
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Possibly, but even breaking lockstep to utter mere lip service to the hypocrisy of the issue is more than I would have expected from Tapper and gives me pause to stop and reconsider some preconceptions about him...but its still early in this evaluation. Still time for him to fuck it up. lol
 
US Government: ''China are bad!''

*Almost 1 million Vietnamese citizens killed in Vietnam, where the US entered the war on an infamous false flag, the Gulf of Tonkin Incident
*Over 1 million people dead in Iraq over a war fueled by manufactured lies
*Slavery brought back in Libya after another propaganda fueled war
*Stealing the state holdings of Venezuela (money that would be used to provide food and medicine for the poor) after refusing to acknowledge the results of an election where the CIA backed puppet lost. Blockading and sanctioning the country to interfere with it's oil trade while the country is experiencing hyperinflation and people are literally starving.
*Some of the biggest arms deals of all time to Saudi Arabia with full knowledge that Saudi Arabia were funding and arming IS and committing war crimes in Yemen
*Several individuals who exposed war crimes had to flee the country or spend the rest of their lives in prison, one of them is currently in a British prison and is facing extradition to the USA.
*Sanctioning and trying to prevent completion of the Nordstream 2 gas pipeline which will supply cheaper gas to European citizens while they're struggling with rapidly inflated energy prices.

China was recently criticized by American politicians for their massive infrastructure plan, they're investing billions of dollars into building roads and railways to neighboring countries, which will be a major boost for trade in Asia and especially so for third world countries. While building these roads and railways in Laos, workers first have to remove thousands of American bombs from the area.
 
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May as well boycott ourselves, the US is as bad if not worse than China in most areas.
 
MicroBrew said:
South Africa being made a pariah did hurt them. If athelets and celebs boycott China , it will bring attention to China's human rights issues because people will ask why all these folks are boycotting China.
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People already know all that shit. This isn't going to bring anything new to light, and if it does, the eyes will not be on China. They will be on the nations who know what they're up to, but still do absurd amounts of business with them. A cute little "diplomatic boycott" of the Olympics is not going to absolve America's complicity with China's practices.
 
China Threatens Retaliation Against the US if They Proceed With Political Boycott of Beijing Olympics

https://www.wfaa.com/video/syndicat...pics/602-bef55509-669b-41e7-9eeb-910356bb6e82

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https://www.latimes.com/world-natio...-potential-us-boycott-beijing-winter-olympics

BEIJING — China on Monday threatened to take “firm countermeasures” if the U.S. proceeds with a diplomatic boycott of February’s Winter Olympics in Beijing.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian accused U.S. politicians of grandstanding over the issue of not sending dignitaries to attend the Games, which China hopes will showcase its economic development and technological prowess.

Speaking to reporters at a daily news briefing, Zhao said such a move would be an “outright political provocation” but gave no details on how China would retaliate.
 
HereticBD said:
People already know all that shit. This isn't going to bring anything new to light, and if it does, the eyes will not be on China. They will be on the nations who know what they're up to, but still do absurd amounts of business with them. A cute little "diplomatic boycott" of the Olympics is not going to absolve America's complicity with China's practices.
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In the warroom we have a decent idea of the human rights issues, but the average American public doesn't. The vast majority of Americans have no clue of anything that happens overseas. A boycott can motivate the public to pressure our elected officials to do more in confronting China and decoupling.

A diplomatic boycott is big negative P.R. It's better than not doing anything. Our officials going over there to represent the country sends a very bad message when China is commiting genocide and being hyper nationalistic towards others.

Ofcourse a full boycott would be better but then people would moan that a sports boycott achieves nothing, when we are trading with them. Ofcourse we should cut back on trade too, but every movement starts with small steps. It is unrealistic to think decoupling and sports boycotts can happen overnight, because you have to overcome the innertia that has built up over decades. This innertia = corporate and government support for US-China relationship.
 
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